Soatok Dreamseeker

So if I understand correctly:

The IETF TLS-WG and Last-Call mailing lists be like:

  • Concern-trolling over vague process stuff in order to drag an informational, recommended=N RFC draft into a quagmire to prevent an RFC number from being allocated? OK.
  • Citing a celebrated rapist as a supporter of your objection? OK.
  • Being said rapist and participating in the mailing list to the detriment to anyone that might feel unsafe by your presence? OK.

Me pointing out that Jacob Appelbaum is a rapist? Whoa now, that's a bridge too far. Gotta censor that!

Me replying to one of the moderators who objected to my initial reply with my "Hug?" sticker: "The worst in people".

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/ApZbYc1ZFRWqWQ4MFM2ATCKvOqc/

Or at least, Bron Gondwana, CEO of Fastmail, seems to think so.

(The other IETF moderators weren't jerks about it, but Bron was.)

Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20260519154604/https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/ApZbYc1ZFRWqWQ4MFM2ATCKvOqc/

(EDIT: DJB was briefly moderated, but IESG overturned it.)

Jacob Appelbaum rape report

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Show threadSoatok DreamseekerMay 19

I responded, but the archive doesn't contain the actual sticker.

https://web.archive.org/web/20260519153558/https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/jQzfgLnFDRYDKvoEu_PfhMKx4Hc/

Show threadSoatok DreamseekerMay 19
Furry stickers in 2026: Worse than rape, apparently.
Show threadnLupo  May 19
@soatok Gay bad.
Show threadStefen Auris 🖖​May 19
@soatok damn official warning over a furry sticker lol. (And not a GIF as he incorrectly cited)
Show threadTael 🔜 AC26May 19
@soatok it's like I'm back in 2006 again!
Show threadLuna LacteaMay 19
@soatok I love how effective furry stickers are at detecting assholes.
Show threadMrGrumpyMonkeyMay 19
@soatok hug 🫂
Show threadGreg BellMay 19
@soatok how can anyone respond to this other than "dawww, c'mere, you..."
Show threadpunIssuerMay 19
@ferrix @soatok patriarchy hurts men, too; exhibit # 16489
Show threadGraham Sutherland / PolynomialMay 19
@soatok ugh I forgot that he even existed.
Show threadSophie SchmiegMay 19
@gsuberland @soatok as far as I can tell, he just shows up to hinder PQC migration efforts on behest of djb these days
Show threadthe esoteric programmerMay 19
@soatok oof, I don't know how the situation could become worse, goddamn, those people really gotta get their priorities in order :p. What RFC is the drama about? is it the hybrid pq and regular crypto vs pure pq alternatives again?
Show threadSoatok DreamseekerMay 19

@esoteric_programmer It's about a non-standards track RFC that allows IANA to specify a codepoint for non-hybrid ML-DSA for TLS.

That's it.

Show threadthe esoteric programmerMay 19
@soatok lol, and they're kicking such a fuss about only that? I guess some people are, as the kids say these days, terminally online :p
Show threadSoatok DreamseekerMay 19

@esoteric_programmer DJB is only pinching a loaf here because his designs didn't get selected for standardization.

He doesn't ring the "it needs hybrid" bell when it comes to, e.g. McEliece. Only ML-KEM and ML-DSA.

Show threadSophie SchmiegMay 19
@soatok @esoteric_programmer at this point, his actions are indistinguishable from sabotage.
Show threadBaloo UrizaMay 19
@soatok I feel like "CEO of a company whose entire existence depends on every lazy moron running an SMTP server blindly adhering to decades of outdated advice about RBLs" ought to be a disqualifying factor in any seat at IETF.
Show threadShadow53May 19
@BalooUriza @soatok could you expand on this? I'm currently using FastMail and would like to know if I need to (once again) find a new provider
Show threadBaloo UrizaMay 19

@shadow53 Bad late-90s to early-00s advice to always blackhole certain entire networks (instead of weighing the source with other factors) is a massive barrier for entry to hosting your own SMTP server that Fastmail (along with every other mail hosting provider) directly benefit from.

@soatok

Show threadShadow53May 19

@BalooUriza Gotcha. So relying on the fact that self-hosted email has issues sending/receiving emails. Yeah, that's basically why I use Fastmail -- reliability and avoiding the sysadmin workload.

Thanks for clarifying!

@soatok

Show threadXerz 💗May 19
@soatok congrats on having a little bit of accountability, how the mighty have fallen kind of vibe huh
Show threadSoatok DreamseekerMay 19
@xerz Yeah, for a moment it was weird haha
Show threadthe vessel of morgannaMay 22
@soatok fucks sake, Appelbaum again? It's been *years* and people still haven't gotten the clue?