Age verification but you can't look at media if you're over 65 without your children's permission.

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WHAT?

I'm obviously not serious, but the issue of scams and fraud are hitting older people in terrible ways and not much is being done about it.

We have activated every gambling addition in the country.

A more serious proposal is a list that people with issues with gambling could add themselves to that would block their cards from being processed by any gambling or prediction outfit.

You could get off the list by doing some forms and a waiting period.

@futurebird

Australia has a system where you can be added to a self-exclusion list for gambling services hosted in AU.

Anecdotally, I hear that being on this list results in more spam from overseas online gambling services that are not covered by the exclusion.

@dhobern @futurebird I’m not sure how well it works but my Australian credit card gives me the option to block gambling payments

@joannaholman @futurebird

The anecdotal example I gave was from someone who used that option. It works from a list of known gambling payment destinations, but knows nothing of the frequently ephemeral overseas examples. And it seems also that there are services that use PayID email addresses to route funds to selected gambling sites. It's good to have options like these, but they can give a false sense of security to concerned friends and relatives.

@dhobern @joannaholman

I want to see kalshi and others included in something like this in the US.

And they'd throw a fit about it which I think would be educational to see.

@futurebird Elder abuse via online or text message scams is common, effective and hugely embarrassing to the folks who are victimized by it. I wish that we had more cops working on it, and stiffer penalties for the perpetrators.

@mikeolson

Very little was being enforced before they gutted consumer protections... right now next to nothing is being investigated ... it's a big free for all.

Check on your people. Review their bank statements with them.

@futurebird Yeah, but that would require entities who make money off exploiting people to stop exploiting the most easily exploited. We need to just make it legally indefensible to exploit people.

@faithisleaping

Gambling isn't real economic activity and should not be counted in GDP.

It creates no value.

@futurebird I'm pretty sure this exists even in most US states, try looking for Self-Exclusion Lists. Maryland has one.

Now, I've also heard that some companies go out of their way to target people on these lists. And all the fun new gambling companies operate on a zero-ethics model already ("Kalshi: Legal In All 50 States!"), so I don't know how effective the lists are.

@futurebird it's a big issue and it doesn't get enough support. I was at a presentation by a liaison of my attorney general and she said Colorado is getting 2-3000 complaints a month about fraud/scams, mostly in the elderly population. And that's just the people who go through the process of filing a complaint over it.
@futurebird yeah, also, gacha games should count as gambling. I knew someone who went into $10k in debt over a single game, which closed down super soon after it opened, so this was a very short time window. It is basically a differently presented slot machine. Back when I was a volunteer mod for one of those companies, I was told it was common practice in the industry to refuse to ban big spenders - people spending $1K+/mo. And the incentives to spend just kept coming.
@futurebird So sad that the need exists and that the ease that people are targeted has multiplied astronomically with barely if at all regulations online.. Decades ago the con men used to have to show up in person. One got our mom to buy an 800 dollar vacuum, We didn’t find out about till ages after the con was done.

@futurebird On the website for my card there are topics for the payments, and I believe that stuff can be enabled and disabled, and if I remember correctly gambling was disabled by default. I'm not sure whether that's some Italian or EU regulation, a choice of my bank, or a combination of those things.

I'm also not sure how well they work in practice: some times the topic under which other expenses are categorized are a bit creative.

but it does make your proposal feel not farfetched at all.

@futurebird and if you lied when you were 11 and said you were 18, then the age restriction kicks in at 58

@ryanprior @futurebird

It's the only way we could get work permits :(

@futurebird

Now just wait a second here missy πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚

@futurebird Parental controls to stop your parents watching Fox News.
@kim @futurebird Now you’re on to something! Blocklists for parental phones and laptops! I’d like one tailored to block police blotter news reports, and automatically mute Trump and a couple dozen others if their voice comes on…. Can we get our kids to go through the mail too?
@futurebird "sorry old man, but you know the rules: 10 minutes of fox news after you've accrued three hours of sesame street."
@futurebird "ooooh, racist remark around the dinner table? yeah, that's gonna cut into your fox news time I'm afraid..."

@aud @futurebird

better yet, Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood

@futurebird I shoulda had children.

@Virginicus

You will be assigned a youthful guardian.

@futurebird I don't have children, but given how the future has turned out, I sure hope I die before I reach age 65.
@futurebird not happenin'. No way. Absolutely not!!!

@pelha

Think of the old people. :(

@futurebird

I beg to differ for myself. My son knows damned well that I am fully capable of holding my own in this age of trumpism.

@futurebird I've been arguing for this every time someone brings up "protecting the children" by denying them access to online spaces.
@futurebird
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@futurebird Haha, Pica is plotting the long game 🀭
@futurebird wheee still a couple of years whoop whoop
@futurebird age verification, but if you're a millennial you have to have your comments on gen z created content reviewed by peers so you don't humiliate our generation with middle age syndrome
@theynege @futurebird is this why they keep saying I'm "posting mid"?