I'm going to go out on a limb and say white colored hiking boots are probably a bad idea. #hiking

Hmm, not white... "Safari/Birch" 🤔

Depends on how far into "dingy white" it already is, otherwise, it will get dingy white very quickly.

#hiking #boots

I suppose they might be "hiking lifestyle" shoes, it's at REI, *implying* you are into hiking but not designed for use on the trail. Much like SUVs and Jeeps have become a "lifestyle brand" even if they'll never go on a 4x4 trail, too.

Not sure about this year, but here, someone wearing clonky hiking boots for fashion, wearing a white fashion jumpsuit which probably cost a fortune lol

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/vanessa-hong-is-seen-wearing-a-white-hat-white-one-piece-news-photo/1128598209?adppopup=true

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Oh here, what I need, is a faux fur jacket to run around while hiking here, better to encourage the mountain lions. Just need to douse myself with some "Obsession for Men" (aka Mountain Lion bait) and jog around at 4am

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/model-xu-meen-wears-a-nike-ambush-green-faux-fur-jacket-news-photo/1180698296?adppopup=true

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LOL I love Getty Images

I guess your royalty aren't exactly going down single line rappelling.

https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/prince-william-prince-of-wales-takes-part-in-a-central-news-photo/1485912838?adppopup=true

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Gah

www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/catherine-princess-of-wales-takes-part-in-a-central-beacons-news-photo/1485912859?adppopup=true

#rappelling

@ai6yr
Eh, it was probably another AI one 😂
@ai6yr Nice apparent redundancy with the belay rope addition. Unfortunately, there is a single point of failure with that bar tacked loop all those carabiners are clipped to. #IHateRappelling
@CavedaleRhones I would have anchored the safety line directly to the harness.
@ai6yr Bing! You win the refrigerator :-)
@ai6yr @CavedaleRhones possibly the person who rigged that isn’t a monarchist.
@ai6yr This actor/model was apparently considered expendable 🤣
@CavedaleRhones @ai6yr I scrolled back up, expecting it was Prince Harry, not William... But maybe it was Harry that hooked him up?
@ai6yr An old family friend Austin Matteson, who was a WWII pilot, once told me that there are old pilots, and bold pilots. But there are no old, bold pilots. I think that applies to climbers too.
@CavedaleRhones @ai6yr Reminds me of „expensive climbing gear lasts 5 years, cheap climbing gear lasts a lifetime“
@ai6yr
We learned to rappel with just a body wrap and no hardware, early ‘60s. 3-strand Goldline that stretched and made bouncing descents. Still have a bag of pitons. Bongs had nothing to do with drugs it was the sound.
@ai6yr
Rescue/fire services tend to use two lines on all high angle rope activities. I guess they like to add complexity to already high-stress scenarios. Arborists would use one line for access and a lanyard to keep in position for doing whatever needs doing.
It is nice seeing the Prince of Wales playing on the mountains of Wales where my favorite carabiner are made.
@ai6yr REi is definitely a lifestyle store, not an outfitter. So that would fit.
@W6KME @ai6yr I dunno, man, where else am I going to get Tecnu in a big hurry?

@ClimateJenny @W6KME @ai6yr it's still the best place near me to try hiking boots before you buy them, although you can buy plenty of lifestyle shit there too.

That's what us staff called it when I worked there. Lifestyle shit.

@semitones @ClimateJenny @W6KME Yes, have done that (trying hiking boots on). They aren't what they were before, but at least they still carry a lot of the stuff. That said, the LAST two times I have been in there (helping my son find better fitting boots, and looking for a specific pair of boots myself), I ended up helping some hapless other customers who had no idea on what they were looking for and who the shoe salesperson had ZERO clue how to help them. i.e. "how will these working backpacking" and answer was along the lines of "I don't know, but a lot of people buy those"
@ai6yr @ClimateJenny @W6KME Not sure when they changed, but when I was working there, they were already
* giving staff 39.5 hours every week, so they didn't have to pay benefits
* understaffing us on busy days so everyone got stressed out
* over-incentivizing membership sales and racking up the average checkout total
By the time I left, the only people still there were either desperate for a job, brand new and knowing nothing about the outdoors, or working minimum hours for the discounts.

@semitones @ai6yr @ClimateJenny @W6KME This seems to be the generic playbook for anything retail. Another weird thing many come up with that I don't quite understand exactly why it's legal is to create special job titles and then anyone given those titles can be made to work 60 hours a week without benefits and without being paid significantly more. At least my last job was doing something funky like that (but I never 100% understood exactly what crap they were pulling.)

Really they were always finding some stupid loopholes. Like we'd have certain minimum requirements for breaks, but those requirements didn't specify when. So often I'd get my last 15 only five minutes before it was time for me to leave. 100% legal.

Capitalism truly is reaching its final stage here...

@nazokiyoubinbou @semitones @ClimateJenny @W6KME "salaried" and "manager" are definitely traps to keep from paying overtime.
@nazokiyoubinbou @ai6yr @ClimateJenny @W6KME huh I didn't realize that was widespread outside of my industry (camp counselor)
@semitones @nazokiyoubinbou @ClimateJenny @W6KME Ah yes, we'll promote you to manager and give you a 50 cent raise, therefore, you will have to work unlimited unpaid overtime!

@semitones @ai6yr @ClimateJenny @W6KME I think their union has asked us to boycott them

I've got quite a bit of store credit there right now and I'm of two minds about exchanging it for products under the circumstances

@semitones @ClimateJenny @W6KME @ai6yr now that our local mountaineering store has closed, REI has gone from the corporate store to be avoided to the only place to get hiking stuff locally.

It's a similar story arc to Barnes & Noble, which went from local bookstore killer to the only local bookstore that's left most places.

@kajord @ClimateJenny @W6KME @ai6yr everything online becoming amazon, everything in person becoming Walmart...

Sometimes I think about the cycle of
01 consolidation
02 crisis
03 destabilization
04 Goto 01

@W6KME @ai6yr We call it Return Every Item (6 month rotating gear library) though they have been cracking down on that lately
@ai6yr I wore these color Keens and khaki Kühl pants hiking today
@Jgbird Ha! Did you design that yourself or?
@ai6yr no it was a special edition collab that apparently didn’t do too well. They were half price. Pretty comfortable!
@ai6yr So you're saying that when a shoe is advertised as a "hiker" and looks like a hiker but only has front wheel drive, it's a lifestyle shoe?
@msbellows I once rode to a dirt road trailhead backpacking in someone's Suburban, which had low rider rims, LOL. It got stuck and he ruined his fancy rims.
@ai6yr Just getting to the trailhead???
@msbellows LOL yeah, his fancy rims couldn't handle the gravel road and ruts
@msbellows Similar to this... Fancy rims, very little sidewall tires lol NOT RECOMMENDED FOR 4X4
@ai6yr @msbellows aka Mall Crawler/Pavement Queen.

@david @ai6yr reminds me of the time decades ago when I was at an auto upholstery place near Beverly Hills getting something minor done to my car and noticed a brand new, top of the line, totally tricked out Range Rover parked in front. Asked the guy why a brand new car would need upholstery. Him: a specific musician had it driven directly from the dealer to the upholstery shop to have all the leather upholstery replaced with a different color he liked better.

This answers the question, "Did hip hop artists back in the day have money to burn?"

@ai6yr @msbellows @david I used to haunt a car stereo business and got to know the owner. He was blown away by all of the LA kids getting a Lexus or Benz or whatever as a gift from their parents, then showing up at his place to get a custom stereo rig. He had an area where they literally reconstructed interiors to fit the speakers the gifted wanted. They'd drop thousands of dollars on the car's stereo alone. Some people have all the bucks to burn at 20.
@steter @ai6yr @david And every single one of them grew up to be an assferret.
@msbellows @steter @david It really is sad how that works. I know a few people--nice guys--,who grew up with very modest backgrounds, but then made a lot of money, and then got married and had kids who were buying sports cars at 16 and parents money funding cocaine in high school, and the kids turned out absolutely rotten. Too easy money too early in an environment where money is the currency can (but doesn't always) turns kids into a**ferrets. One person I know (in Silicon Valley) bemoaned that kids were looking up other kids' net worth and choosing their friends based on that. 🤢
@ai6yr @steter @david It's okay: you don't need to censor the word "assferrets" because they're actually a lab-created cross between a donkey and a close relative of the weasel.
@msbellows @steter @david LOL Hard habit to break, I grew up in Salt Lake City, Utah. Gosh darn it! Gee whiz.
@ai6yr @steter @david Darn you! Darn you to Heck!

@msbellows @steter @david

Well, I already have been consigned to H-E-double-toothpicks because my parents drank coffee as a kid. A kid broke my glasses and gave me a bloody nose because of that one. How many of YOU have gotten in a fight over your parent's coffee drinking habits?!?!

@msbellows @steter @david Insert "Spooky Mormon Hell Dream" from the Book of Mormon, with the set including two giant Starbucks coffee cups 😂
@ai6yr @msbellows @steter @david you are absolved, my child

@autolycos @ai6yr @steter @david Your parents were simply ahead of their time, and cooler than everyone else.

Why more and more young Latter-day Saints are drinking coffee https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2023/09/26/why-more-more-young-latter-day/

Why more and more young Latter-day Saints are drinking coffee

Many young Latter-day Saints don't view drinking coffee as a violation of their faith's Word of Wisdom.

The Salt Lake Tribune
@ai6yr @msbellows @steter @david that is a brutal neighboorhood/culture! My kids would being getting beat up constantly if that were the case here! My wife and I have a pretty solid coffee drinking habit
@bud_t @ai6yr @steter @david Wait til those kids learn about the Buena Vista Cafe in San Francisco.
@ai6yr @msbellows @steter @david that sounds like a very Utah-esque situation
@ai6yr @msbellows @david I was raised in Oregon. We had completely different stupid reasons to get into fights.