Oh my, this is spectacularly to the point -

https://sinceyouarrived.world/taken

taken.

A web page that tells you what your browser gave away the moment you arrived. No login, no form, no permission. Most pages do this. None of them tell you.

Since You Arrived

@Natasha_Jay they got my browser wrong ๐Ÿค”

edit: still, like you say, very to the point!

@FourT4 @Natasha_Jay

Curious, can you tell if that's an error in the web site or if the browser is sending misinformation?

@Natasha_Jay apparently my browser does well in protecting my privacy, because most of what I got was "[x] has been held back"

@iamada
I should try it on my laptop.

Tbh I'm not surprised, though some was new to me.

@iamada @Natasha_Jay Which browser are you using? 
@june @iamada @Natasha_Jay Seconded - I get the Tor and/or VPN mixes, but I get the impression there are "simpler" options? NoScript doesn't work here, since these scripts are local.

@grant_h

@june @iamada @Natasha_Jay How so as it seems to be working with my browser. I first load the page and then enabled JS. It revealed a lot. I turned of the temp allow, flushed all the cookies, et al. Then re-opened the page and nothing revealed.

@EdBruce @june @iamada @Natasha_Jay Fair enough. My NoScipt is set to trust local code. Blocking _all_ JS all the time tends to be very intrusive - but yes, safer.
@june @Natasha_Jay I'm using a somewhat hardened version of Zen, which is a fork of Firefox.
Zen Browser

Beautifully designed, privacy-focused, and packed with features.

@iamada @june @Natasha_Jay Hm, I think browsers should feed bogus data, just so sites wouldn't even detect it being held back. But it's not a trivial task, knowing the consequences of falling behind this treadmill: one data point slips out - and suddenly all users of the same browser pay the price.
@Natasha_Jay
This is who built sinceyouarrived.world/taken, who have 3 AI apps, which is in the footer of the website, and on their website.
https://riseuplabs.app
#noAI
Rise Up Labs LLC

AI products that turn uncertainty into action.

@Natasha_Jay Thank goodness for stronger security - it got two of the 22 points correct for me. One of them was my language the other was the name of my ยตblog server where I clicked from. A lot of this stuff has been baked into the web since the early days, not all of it needs scripts and cookies etc.
@Natasha_Jay But does that page have a particular set of skills ? ... /me takes coat ..
@Natasha_Jay Other volumes at the end of the page are also impressive
@Natasha_Jay Thru #Tor thru #mullvad it can tell me almost nothing, and what it does record is inaccurate. I, too, am going to try this on my laptop.

@Natasha_Jay Very helpful and informative. Thanks for sharing.

Even though it wasn't 100 percent accurate in my case, it's still a frightening representation of the connections. And what is revealed about you online without your knowledge. ๐Ÿ˜ถโ€๐ŸŒซ๏ธ

@Natasha_Jay AI slop website. The homepage (https://sinceyouarrived.world/) says this website was made by https://riseuplabs.app/ "AI products that turn the market into action". Seriously, these websites are slop, stop boosting it.
Since You Arrived

In the 1 hour I just spent here, the world did all of this. A memento mori for the internet age.

Since You Arrived
well, @[email protected] blocked me. That's what I get for having standards
@konstruct Also, the whole thing is rather silly. Am I supposed to be horrified that the web server I chose to access knows the IP address I used for the request? Or that it knows what time it is? There are some disturbingly accurate ways of fingerprinting users, but most of the ones on that site are pretty innocent if not necessary for doing anything at all.
@mansr Ev [it/she, 3pp]: the way it was presented was pretty cool. The same info can viewed on eff's "cover your tracks", or deviceinfo.me
And to be honest, eff's one is pretty nicely explained, so imma post that
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@konstruct @Natasha_Jay Thanks. That explains why the prose was so awful.
@konstruct @Natasha_Jay oooh.. thanks for letting us know, I removed my boost..
@konstruct @Natasha_Jay just because the author works at an AI firm does not mean that the site itself is vibecoded. It seems like some actual UX design was put into it? And the "sources" section states that the author wrote every piece of text himself without LLM assistance. He likely used Claude or similar to get the *scripting* up and running since most webdevs seem to do that nowadays, but this website does not seem to be totally based on vibes. Not everything the darkness touches is slop.
@kebokyo @Natasha_Jay
1. nothing says "written by a human" on the main page, https://sinceyouarrived.world/
2. even if some pages (I saw, https://sinceyouarrived.world/sky) say the text is human, it's just bad writing and product placement for the AI company credited at every footnote.
3. I can say "trust me, it's AI" just like they say "trust me, it's human".
4. the twitter (!) profile for Matt reads "[...] Technologist, Investor" and those are two words I do NOT trust or like
5. even if the text is human, this is still shitty as hell. AI-generating anything is shitting on artists and human rights. Endorsing AI is the same.
Since You Arrived

In the 1 hour I just spent here, the world did all of this. A memento mori for the internet age.

Since You Arrived
@konstruct thank you for taking out the garbage
@Natasha_Jay both disturbing (the angle my screen is at) and pleasing (no, actually, my location is nowhere near there, and that's not my browser)

@Natasha_Jay

Rather interesting if one does this with different browsers.

(E.g: Haven't known Vivaldi on my old phone announces my battery status).

@unixwitch
I'm interested to have a play too.

The GPU fingerprint shocked me for example

@Natasha_Jay It mistakenly identified my browser as Chrome ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ
@Natasha_Jay Good to see a lot of the info was wrong. Not using a vpn but it got the wrong country!
@Natasha_Jay The mask is also a fingerprint 
@m @Natasha_Jay
If you're the only one in the crowd wearing a V for Vendetta mask ...
@Natasha_Jay if they know that much about my browser they could reasonably infer that the way it renders dark brown text on a black background is borderline unreadable in sunlight
@dan @Natasha_Jay yup.

I had to go turn up the brightness to be able to read. But apparently they "would have noticed' me navigating away, and they didn't.

@Natasha_Jay similar to the "about you" part of https://yhvr.me/about/ albeit with fancier presentation lol

cc @yhvr

yhvr - about me

about yhvr. is that it?

@pearl
>you're reading this on a device that doesn't have a battery in it, or the battery is at 100% while plugged in

Neither site seems to know my battery haha. Nice.

Edit: DDG hides it, Opera gives away a bit more data than DDG.

@Natasha_Jay IMO a lot of this is very sensationalized (the whole website is - oooh, "taken", like in that one movie, ooohhh).
It doesn't offer any solutions either, just... be scared, be angry? I suppose?
@arina
For me it made me think about privacy. Not for the first time. Whether I should take it more seriously than I do ...
@Natasha_Jay oh that's fantastic. Thank you for posting!
@Natasha_Jay fortunately, iOS doesnโ€™t share which keyboards are installed, that would freak me out
@Natasha_Jay It got my location very wrong indeed, which is interesting. However, it's a brilliant idea. The thing that I found most surprising was that apparently browsers can harvest your current battery percentage and use it to track you across sites. That's extremely sneaky!
@macronencer
There were a few things that raised an eyebrow for me. The screen resolution on my phone is very unusual for example
@Natasha_Jay @macronencer While I'm sure it's used to help fingerprint, screen resolution data is benign and is intended to help display web sites on the huge number of screen sizes and resolutions out there.
@Natasha_Jay
Interesting. Mainly inaccurate as my VPN has done its job.
@Natasha_Jay that is wonderful and terrible. I hate it.
@Natasha_Jay a readable version would be so cool.
@Natasha_Jay @catsalad Iโ€™m disappointed, of all the things to get wrong it completely got my IP address wrong. First and last octets are way off. Middle two were reacted.
@Natasha_Jay - Well spoken Hoorah

@Natasha_Jay

Mh, not quite right in three items.

@Natasha_Jay Chrome on Android here. It got everything right ๐Ÿ˜…
@SavaRocks @Natasha_Jay
Chrome.
Completely accurate.
@Natasha_Jay they got almost everything wrong.

@Natasha_Jay Sweet. Some of what I'm doing is working. It got almost everything wrong except a few necessary facts I share with a lot of people.

Basically just using a VPN and LibreWolf. It thinks I'm in Seattle and my TZ is in Iceland.

The website did note that my browser sent false info for screen size but mention the substitute in still a data point. It is, that's why I don't change the screen size from the default startup...usually (and librewolf puts it back).

This is what "free" costs. Strong words at the end of the page