@gabrielesvelto mentally some of the billionaires seem to be teenagers, so it could have same effect
@tymwol it's a shame we don't have a legal definition for a man-child

@tymwol @gabrielesvelto

I beg to disagree here.

Where us oldies settle for the ”rational” (i.e. norm conformist & status quo preserving) option, teenagers and young adults are the ones to stay defending the moral high ground. Think of animal rights, LGBTQ+, fridays for future, and now sober curiosity. All youth movements.

Billionaires are more like infants kicking and screaming for more of everything. Difference is infants eventually become teenagers and young adults.

@gabrielesvelto we could have stopped at “banning billionaires” on the second image
@adrien @gabrielesvelto It would definitely solve a lot of these problems.
@adrien @gabrielesvelto here was me about to wade in and suggest we cut the 'social' but missing the bigger picture

@gabrielesvelto

the conversation is always about social media generally instead of corporate social media platforms with algos, ads and data mining. the fedi proves it can work well for everyone without the bad stuff when you don't try to get rich or have to pay back VCs.

@wjmaggos @gabrielesvelto half of it is I think many people don't know that any alternatives to Instagram and X exist or are ontologically possible, and part of it is intentional
@gabrielesvelto eh, not possible. The company would just be owned by a branch of a shell company that is a sister company to some hedge fund managers lemonade stand.
@txtechnician @gabrielesvelto Unless it were a non-profit, a co-op, a crown corporation, etc.

@Space_Burger_Steve @txtechnician @gabrielesvelto

What a weird concept, social media owned by a non profit. I don't think it could scale.

What if instead of one social media site, someone were to make a protocol where a bunch of smaller ones that are a reasonable size to be run by a nonprofit or co op can talk to each other as if they were one big network?

@gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @gabrielesvelto

Been done already, it's called email bro.

@txtechnician @Space_Burger_Steve @gabrielesvelto

Oh I thought that was just for selling boner pills. I'll need to look into it.

@gabrielesvelto

Even better:
banning #bigtechs from owning social media.

Social media developed by bigtechs is the real problem.

@gabrielesvelto I’d love to see everyone delete their meta, x and google accounts on the same day. #FuckMeta #fuckbigtech #FuckBillionaires oh the wonderful panic that would ensue as the tech industry goes into meltdown when they realise that they are not in control. .. Sadly, just a dream.
@gabrielesvelto banning social media? I'm listening
@gabrielesvelto 👉 banning billionaires
@gabrielesvelto banning boomers from the whole Internet because they use Meta and ChatGPT

@gabrielesvelto

A teen "ban" on social media will likely be the biggest boost to the fediverse since the muskrat bought twitter. Start spreading the word!

@gabrielesvelto

Billionaires destroy humanity.

Save the children from them.

@gabrielesvelto that is so much a better solution.
@gabrielesvelto one of those is much easier to do than the other.
@gabrielesvelto We must disobey age segregation and ageism.
@gabrielesvelto what's the point of banning kids from literal children's games, if a 5yo kid wants to use a tablet they would simply ask their parents to bypass the security and use it anyways. These laws are not protecting anyone
@gabrielesvelto ban billionaires from earth.
@gabrielesvelto Let’s do both.

@oberstenzian

Let's not. Kids are people, not property to be muted at a whim. If they have something to say, the government has no business stopping them from saying it in the place where the general public will hear them, and in 2026 that place is social media.

Frankly I'm shocked at how quickly freedom of speech flies out the window. When I was in school, I was taught that freedom of speech is sacred and our ancestors died for it! Am I the only one who took it to heart?

@gabrielesvelto

@oberstenzian

And what would you sacrifice it for? The convenience of not having to set up parental controls on the devices you give your children? That hardly justifies the burden you'd impose on everyone else.

Are you perhaps worried that your kids will find some other adult who will give them another, unlocked device and social media account to use? Because even with age verification they can still do that!

@gabrielesvelto

@argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian
When I was a teenager, I learned to make decisions about my own behavior. Yes, I did things that my parents disapproved of. We kept talking, and got through it with growth for us all.

With my own son, my wife taught me that the important part was to maintain communication. That means listening as well as speaking. Forbidding behavior shuts down that communication.

Talk of what you want, not what you don’t want.

@gdinwiddie

This! Kids aren't stupid. They can be reasoned with. In fact they *must* be reasoned with; they don't learn anything from unexplained commandments.

And does anyone else remember their own childhood? Sometimes I was rash and arrogant, sure, but I wasn't dumb, and neither were my fellow kids. We figured out for ourselves how to stay safe online.

Now I'm supposed to believe that kids these days aren't born with brains? Baloney. Of course they are.

@gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian

@gdinwiddie

I've actually *lost* intelligence since I was that age. I know more, I have more skill, but I have less brain power with which to use that knowledge and skill.

And that is a tragedy.

But that's why I'm not worried about the kids. They're sharp. What they don't know, they'll figure out quick. And they're resilient, in both mind and body. They'll be fine.

It's the *adults* that I'm worried about. They're the ones who're all losing their damn minds.

@gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian

@argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto I use parental controls. I’ll gladly accept more parental controls.

I’m opposed to any forms of age check bs. Especially the methods being rolled out currently.

I think commercial social media entities should be held criminally liable for allowing children on their platforms. And any sleazy ID or age check racket should be forbidden.

They’ll have to come up with a better way to prevent liability. *Like going out of business.*

@argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto My ancestors didn’t die for freedom of speech. They died to escape slavery. And the enslavers were demanding freedom of speech for their fellow landowners, not the folks that tilled the soil.

Nationalist myths aren’t a starting point for this. But I get what you mean.

I don’t think social media as we know it was designed for freedom of speech. It can allow for it… but that’s the problem. The *allow* part.

@gabrielesvelto me no sci-fi man, but:

What Data says. 

@squarefaelltein @gabrielesvelto

It was Geordi la Forge, not Data. No worries, with the visor you could have easily been mistaken!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordi_La_Forge

Geordi La Forge - Wikipedia

@axel @gabrielesvelto ok i correct myself: i am ABSOLUTELY no sci-fi man
@gabrielesvelto Good ole Geordi, never disappoints...
@gabrielesvelto Social Media exclusively owned by teenagers.

@StaticR

There are probably some teenager-run Fedi sites. So that's already a thing!

@gabrielesvelto

@argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto maybe I should set up one for my teen!

@ricci

I take it your teen isn't interested in doing it themselves?

I know I'd have been all over it when I was that age. I'd have been all, “I could run my own social media site? HOLY S**T WHERE DO I SIGN?!?”

Sadly I was on dialup…

@StaticR @gabrielesvelto

@argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto I had a buddy who ran a BBS out of his house in high school...
@ricci @argv_minus_one @StaticR @gabrielesvelto
Yeah, late 90s when I was in high school, a bunch of the local BBSes were run by high school students.