I beg to disagree here.
Where us oldies settle for the ”rational” (i.e. norm conformist & status quo preserving) option, teenagers and young adults are the ones to stay defending the moral high ground. Think of animal rights, LGBTQ+, fridays for future, and now sober curiosity. All youth movements.
Billionaires are more like infants kicking and screaming for more of everything. Difference is infants eventually become teenagers and young adults.
@tymwol
that "some" is doing some heavy lifting
the conversation is always about social media generally instead of corporate social media platforms with algos, ads and data mining. the fedi proves it can work well for everyone without the bad stuff when you don't try to get rich or have to pay back VCs.
@fluffykittycat who is advertising the alternatives? Where?
@Space_Burger_Steve @txtechnician @gabrielesvelto
What a weird concept, social media owned by a non profit. I don't think it could scale.
What if instead of one social media site, someone were to make a protocol where a bunch of smaller ones that are a reasonable size to be run by a nonprofit or co op can talk to each other as if they were one big network?
@gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @gabrielesvelto
Been done already, it's called email bro.
@txtechnician @Space_Burger_Steve @gabrielesvelto
Oh I thought that was just for selling boner pills. I'll need to look into it.
There must another example. It's on the tip of my tongue.
@gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @txtechnician @gabrielesvelto
You could almost call it a 'federation' 😉, but without the 'starfleet command' bit.
@Ultraverified @gbargoud @Space_Burger_Steve @txtechnician @gabrielesvelto
Count me out then.
Even better:
banning #bigtechs from owning social media.
Social media developed by bigtechs is the real problem.
@gwenthefops @FromTheFourthPlanet @gabrielesvelto
That's why we have guillotines
@FromTheFourthPlanet @gabrielesvelto
What software or app did you use to add that bottom bit?
A teen "ban" on social media will likely be the biggest boost to the fediverse since the muskrat bought twitter. Start spreading the word!
Great point.
Let's not. Kids are people, not property to be muted at a whim. If they have something to say, the government has no business stopping them from saying it in the place where the general public will hear them, and in 2026 that place is social media.
Frankly I'm shocked at how quickly freedom of speech flies out the window. When I was in school, I was taught that freedom of speech is sacred and our ancestors died for it! Am I the only one who took it to heart?
And what would you sacrifice it for? The convenience of not having to set up parental controls on the devices you give your children? That hardly justifies the burden you'd impose on everyone else.
Are you perhaps worried that your kids will find some other adult who will give them another, unlocked device and social media account to use? Because even with age verification they can still do that!
@argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto @oberstenzian
When I was a teenager, I learned to make decisions about my own behavior. Yes, I did things that my parents disapproved of. We kept talking, and got through it with growth for us all.
With my own son, my wife taught me that the important part was to maintain communication. That means listening as well as speaking. Forbidding behavior shuts down that communication.
Talk of what you want, not what you don’t want.
This! Kids aren't stupid. They can be reasoned with. In fact they *must* be reasoned with; they don't learn anything from unexplained commandments.
And does anyone else remember their own childhood? Sometimes I was rash and arrogant, sure, but I wasn't dumb, and neither were my fellow kids. We figured out for ourselves how to stay safe online.
Now I'm supposed to believe that kids these days aren't born with brains? Baloney. Of course they are.
I've actually *lost* intelligence since I was that age. I know more, I have more skill, but I have less brain power with which to use that knowledge and skill.
And that is a tragedy.
But that's why I'm not worried about the kids. They're sharp. What they don't know, they'll figure out quick. And they're resilient, in both mind and body. They'll be fine.
It's the *adults* that I'm worried about. They're the ones who're all losing their damn minds.
@argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto I use parental controls. I’ll gladly accept more parental controls.
I’m opposed to any forms of age check bs. Especially the methods being rolled out currently.
I think commercial social media entities should be held criminally liable for allowing children on their platforms. And any sleazy ID or age check racket should be forbidden.
They’ll have to come up with a better way to prevent liability. *Like going out of business.*
@argv_minus_one @gabrielesvelto My ancestors didn’t die for freedom of speech. They died to escape slavery. And the enslavers were demanding freedom of speech for their fellow landowners, not the folks that tilled the soil.
Nationalist myths aren’t a starting point for this. But I get what you mean.
I don’t think social media as we know it was designed for freedom of speech. It can allow for it… but that’s the problem. The *allow* part.
@gabrielesvelto me no sci-fi man, but:
What Data says. 
@squarefaelltein @gabrielesvelto
It was Geordi la Forge, not Data. No worries, with the visor you could have easily been mistaken!
I take it your teen isn't interested in doing it themselves?
I know I'd have been all over it when I was that age. I'd have been all, “I could run my own social media site? HOLY S**T WHERE DO I SIGN?!?”
Sadly I was on dialup…