I have spent my entire social, political, intellectual, and professional career advocating for individuality, community, collaboration, excellence, ecology, and abundance.
LLMs -- for coding or any other activity -- are anti-individual, anti-community, anti-collaboration, anti-excellence, anti-ecology, and anti-abundance.
They are a corruption of virtually every ideal I hold and every practice I advocate.
@GeePawHill I honestly think the people who view LLMs as a neutral technology irritate me more than the people who are enamoured by them.
There is nothing neutral about doing mass theft in order to atrophy cognition and connection, while siphoning already strained resources to achieve that end.
@theeclecticdyslexic @GeePawHill multiple drugs/ medicine came from unethical testing. Now common medical practices were once experimented unethicaly. The phones used to post this runs on semiconductor material acquired from mining which disrupts nature and carbon footprint. Electricity comes from hydroelectric plants, that disrupt aquatic like. Many more.
But those are fine now as those are not in trend and you are also using them right? Online anti-ai sentiment deserves those fancy vocabulary
Please refer to https://thenib.com/mister-gotcha/
The equivocance you are trying to make between medicine and LLMs is uniformed nonsense at best and grift at worst. If all the world's medicine was lost, what would happen to the average quality of life? elecricity? semiconductors? LLMs? In each successive step here, the value proposition goes down. LLMs are so far down it is fiercely negative.
Get a better argument, and come back when you have thought it over very carefully. Thanks.
@theeclecticdyslexic @GeePawHill argument? You mean to say word play? Sorry my friend. My vocabulary is not that vast.
Knife is a tool. Knife has a lots of uses. Some can use it awesomely, some cut themselves. And in some bad cases it is used for worst, but knife is not a murderer. If you can't even understand that, then all you are best at is argument.
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- An LLM is less a knife, it's more a partially controlled vortex of kitchenware. The transformer is the knife.
- The purpose of a system is what it does, and LLMs cause harm foremost.
- You don't mention any uses of LLMs, only of knives, because LLMs' primary use is theft.
- LLMs are built to offload accountability, not so with a knife.
- LLM misuse is government policy where I live, not the case for knives.
I understand your point well; it is misapplied here.
@theeclecticdyslexic @GeePawHill now we are talking. LLM is an imitation of brain functioning. Like any other automated process such as modern factory work, it can be used in situation where just a "if this do that" can't work.
And like any other tool, it's a tool. An undertrained llm is as good as dull blade. Has no purpose or use. But does it mean that blade has no potential to be sharpened and it will be forever useless?
Your knowledge comes from a corpus of LLMs build for hype, not for use
Imagine I create a device. The device is so easy to copy I can give one to everyone on the planet. The device does many useful things, notably it can kill every human in existence.
No sane human would say this tool has the realistic potential for positive use.
If you accept this technology would not be neutral, then you accept that there is a point where technology ceases to be neutral.
I am telling you, this tech is net negative.
I think this conversation is done.
@theeclecticdyslexic @GeePawHill ohh you mean to say cooking pot? It's a device I can copy, and surely if one try hard enough it can use to do to human existence deed. So what should we do, ban pots? But then people will start calling it "monopoly", "fascist" and what not.
If a thing is public, it's problem, if it's centralised, it's a problem. Surely you see which one is worse right? Remember, the good old penicillin. Glad it was not banned.
If you say conversation is over, it is I guess.
@GeePawHill thank you GeePaw
[I saved a question that came to mind re: abundance, in case this was not just a vent post]
@GeePawHill You woke a troll with that post! I've blocked it!
Apart from that I agree with your points ....
@GeePawHill ❤️ Yes.
But on the other hand, a good number of people know this very well, but don't care at all. That's somewhat the problem of the times we live in.
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