@lothcat ๐Ÿ’• Enough is enough. More than enough is for sharing. ๐Ÿ’•

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@lothcat the sad thing. You may also get to the point where it isn't ever enough to give all you want away. Still a nice thinking.

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I'm starting to really understand that this is the wealth of community more than money

@lothcat what is this from?
@guigui3000 I've added a source link to the post.
@lothcat I wanna be rich enough for 50 acres of good land for an ecovillage, fuck getting a BMW
@lothcat For myself I would like to be rich enough for a permanent home, not necessarily large a 3 roomer is fine, in Tazacorte or the likes. At that point I'd be content to spend remaining riches on mutual aid toots and charities.

@lothcat Yes - broadly concur. To me, being rich would be about hearing someone is struggling, and saying "What can I do to help? Do you want to come and stay for a week? Can i order you something?"

It is always about helping other people, in their own crisis. Providing support for people who need it.

And - longer term - looking to see what I can do to make peoples lives better. Can I buy up properties to rent, at low rental? Can I invest in peoples companies?

@lothcat And it feels it even more after years watching every penny.

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I had a partner years ago who used to tell me that their goal was to have slightly more than enough, so they could afford to be generous.

Their wisdom stuck with me far after we parted ways.

@lothcat Yes. This.

Rich enough to buy art from my friends, and pay more than they're used to asking.

And rich enough to know I can walk out of most ordinary bad situations.
@valentine Walk-away money is a necessity.
@lothcat exactly this yes! I want to be wealthy enough to be comfortable and help out people

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It's not easy to explain to people who don't think that way that most people think that way.

@lothcat THIS. I want to be rich enough to enjoy life and not be worried all the Time if I can pay the next bills.
Rich enough to afford healthcare.
Things everyone should be able to have!
@fennek @lothcat no one should have to ever worry about affording healthcare. Thatโ€™s a deep failure of a society, to create any place where the chief worry of being sick or injured is financial.
@calcifer @lothcat true I cant afford one since my Partner lose his job for 3 years and couldn't find a new one. Its sucks and I think healthcare should be free avaible for the poor people. No one should worry about this. At the Moment I cant pay monthly for a insurance since I am the only one with a Income. I just try my best to create savings what is not easy with a small income 
@fennek Last time I got seriously injured someone asked if I needed an ambulance, I said no, I'd figure something out, cost was the reason. (It all turned out fine, but ๐Ÿ˜ตโ€๐Ÿ’ซ)
@sunumbral I feel this, I always see to manage it alone too and yes it is not the best but if you are poor, you have no other choice.
@lothcat this is very true and very touching!!
@lothcat *and high confidence that it _stays_ that way without permanently having to slap "the cutting tool" out of neoliberal politicians hands
@grob Yes, stability is an important factor.

@lothcat It's odd how very rich people seem often to be thinking about money all the time, and worrying about it, and having to step out of things to deal with it., and having opinions on it. It seems weirdly like being poor.

I think there must be a sweet-spot somewhere. Being rich should mean not having to think about money because you've enough.

@chiffchaff @lothcat very rich people donโ€™t think about money all the time; thatโ€™s a thing that happens to people who are rich but desperately want to become very rich.

The very rich literally hire people to worry about money for them. Itโ€™s very strange to watch.

@chiffchaff @lothcat

I once suddenly felt the strong presence of a person who was not concerned with money at all. It startled me, and I looked up and saw a man, too far away to make out his face. I let myself explore the feeling as he walked closer because it was a complete novelty to me. There were concerns, but money was not involved. It was such an experience, to suddenly feel how much money worries are part of my daily life. We were walking closer to each other. Weirdly, he had noticed me, too. So there was the money freedom, and the awareness of each other, which both felt so unexpected. It turned out to be Paul McCartney. As we met, he said, "yes love, it is me."

I held onto that feeling of not being afraid of not having enough money for as long as I could.

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I want to be rich enough to buy art from the coffee shop walls, and get a CD from the bands at shows.
@lothcat "Money can't buy happiness, but it sure can buy off misery"
@lothcat That sounds almost like being Bilbo Baggins.
@nichni It does! Hobbits know how to live right.
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There was an NPR story in 2019ish that happiness increases with income up until about 75,000 USD, which is the point where the curve falls off and further increase is marginal. People with just enough not to worry about money we're happiest while rich people were never satisfied.
They had some asshole economist they were interviewing about it and he got so mad when they brought up the study and just insisted "nuh uh nuh uh NUH UH!!""
@Tristan I think of that study often, and am completely unsurprised that a rich economist would deny it's true.
@lothcat Iโ€™d add โ€œand to not have to worry about the futureโ€, but other than that, this. Definitely.

@lothcat Oh, what is that from? That totally sums it up.

I don't want money for money's sake, I just want to be able to not worry and for bonus points be able to do nice things for other people. I don't really want have a big hoard of money to buy stuff I don't need.*

* Except a Batmobile. I do dream of owning a working replica of the Adam West-era Batmobile. But it would be an EV so as not to be as bad for the environment. Still gonna make flames come out the back, though.

@jzb Someone shared a link to the source, so I've added it to my post.

One big treat for yourself, then share the rest, sounds like a good plan.

@lothcat Reminds me of the society in Ursula K. LeGuin's "Always Coming Home" who considered you poor if you had a lot of stuff, and rich if you did not, because the natural thing to do with a lot of stuff is give it away,

It wasn't just that hoarding stuff earned you the reputation of being miserly and maybe a little wrong in the head, though it did - the hoarding was considered a symptom of actual poverty.

I think I need to reread that book now.

@lothcat Just replacing the broken appliances

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So true - when it boils down we donโ€™t need a lot to live a contented life

@lothcat rich enough to buy 50 new tea glasses for a local community that organizes free coffee and tea for lonely people.
@lothcat โ€œAnd He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites. So He said, โ€˜Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than allโ€ฆโ€™โ€ Generosity is a state of mind not a financial status. Some of the most generous people in this world are also some of the poorest.
@lothcat that's lovely ๐Ÿ’
@lothcat This is what it means to me too and I'm resentful it's been robbed from me. We should all be.