"Polls close in high-stakes Hungarian #election as #Magyar seeks to oust #Orbán"
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https://tvpworld.com/92591265/hungary-polls-close-as-magyars-tisza-seeks-to-oust-orbn
"Polls close in high-stakes Hungarian #election as #Magyar seeks to oust #Orbán"
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https://tvpworld.com/92591265/hungary-polls-close-as-magyars-tisza-seeks-to-oust-orbn
@hoare_spitall @JustRobForNow @evoterra
not voting is for morons
Mamdani v Cuomo
Magyar v Orban
HELLLOOOOOO???
Stawman argument.
“None of them are worth a vote” is rarely true, but is the cry of the detached non-voter clinging to some misguided sense of moral clarity.
I used to be one. I’ve grown. It’s possible.
@ariaflame @hoare_spitall @jaystephens @evoterra @JustRobForNow
and while i disagree with that choice, getting lazy assholes to go to the polling station is 99% of the problem
so if someone is standing there and still wants to draw a dick on their ballot, i'm fine with it, even if i disagree with it, because *most* people will at least make a fucking choice once standing there
which improves this world
@benroyce @ariaflame @hoare_spitall @jaystephens @evoterra @JustRobForNow
I think this is why a lot of people don’t vote.
Voting, while necessary, is almost the least part of a functioning democracy. That so many people do not vote shows the failure of those other parts.
True, many of those failures are intentional, designed to suppress the vote, or reduce choice to something meaningless.
But it is those other failures that need to be addressed if we want people to feel voting is purposeful. Without that, there is no reason to expect them to try.
@hypostase @ariaflame @hoare_spitall @jaystephens @evoterra @JustRobForNow
the fix you seek is provided via them voting (and other efforts)
the failure to understand that and not have the heart to do what is necessary is the failure
to somehow mollify heartless people who have given up on the fight is not our responsibility
some of these people are lying trolls, some have wound up in cynical helplessness sincerely
but they must fix themselves
they can seek aid from those who will listen
@benroyce @ariaflame @hoare_spitall @jaystephens @evoterra @JustRobForNow
The fix I seek is provided by education and community building. By challenging the politicians who ask for votes with questions that show a depth of understanding of the issues.
It is not provided by voting and praying that the next representative will somehow do the right thing.
Indeed many people are just trolling the field, as part of the misinformation campaign. It takes genuine connection and organisation to overcome that.
Sure, in Hungary a lot of people held their noses and voted for what was available, rather than what they might actually have wanted, but it’s also pretty clear that that took organisation and grassroots connections as well.
I just hoping that it doesn’t take the US another 16 years to figure out how to do that.
@hypostase @ariaflame @hoare_spitall @jaystephens @evoterra @JustRobForNow
we can build communities but if we ignore voting the fascists eventually have all power and just machine gun us laughing
as mamdani showed, you just fucking vote
you're asking for centrist assholes and MAGA fascists to magically turn left before you vote
that doesn't work
what you do is you ignore them
vote for real leftists in the primaries
and replace them
your ask is huge and slow
my ask is tiny and effective