Mastodawn

So Trump deleted the photo depicting him as Jesus. — When asked about it, he will claim that it was posted by a staff member. However, he will neither name nor fire this alleged staff member, and 99.9% of MAGA influencers will simply act as if the whole thing never happened.

@Strandjunker I grew up with Christians constantly talking about the end times and how the antichrist will be a figure who fake Christians in name only will hail and worship. There were flyers and meetings.

Now, the most unChrist like figure in US history, a known rapist and bigot, who used our tax dollars to pay for holding refugees in foreign prisons - those public Christians are completely silent on how much Trump fits their narrative. Because they are silent bigots themselves.

Orb 2069 1d ago

Imagine how much green ink would have been spilled over Kamala Harris' staff or family being involved in this:

https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/timeline-on-jared-kushner-qatar-666-fifth-avenue-and-white-house-policy/

Timeline on Jared Kushner, Qatar, 666 Fifth Avenue, and White House Policy

A comprehensive account of Jared Kushner, 666 Fifth Avenue, and White House support for the blockade of Qatar after the Qataris rejected Kushner Companies.

Just Security

Urban Hermit 1d ago

@Orb2069 @Strandjunker I honestly thought this was off topic until I read it and saw how many times 666 was mentioned.

Also, I hadn't heard the term "green ink" before and I had to look up the definition.

In the 90's conspiracies about who fit into the 'end times' narrative, and books about the 'left behind' were everywhere in the US. And here HE is, and nothing - silence. Because they like the evil.

Sometimes I think irony is evidence of a clever, non-interfering, but warning God.

Orb 2069 1d ago

How much would a 'rapture' look like the recently 'passed' pandemic?

Imagine thinking you missed the bus.

Urban Hermit 1d ago

@Orb2069 @Strandjunker yeah. Imagine if the rapture was just 'a lot of people died, and many went to heaven. They didn't float to heaven out of their clothes or anything, because that kind of showing off isn't HER style, and definitive proof violates the RIGHT TO FREE WILL, which is absolute.

So now you all are in the Apocalypse, and it feels like it, doesn't? And a guy given absolute freewill chose to act like the AntiChrist, and you all chose to make him leader of your "free world".'
1/2

Urban Hermit 1d ago

@Orb2069 @Strandjunker
2/2
'SHR cries over you all, everyday, you know, and SHE can cry oceans. But SHE can't help you directly because it violates FREE WILL. All SHE can do is mess with probabilities to make sure you have choices, and drop subtle, improbable warnings everywhere for those who chose to see.

And the culmination of this is the revel that some guy named Peter said this, but that can't happen. It is just a story, because direct interference violates FREE WILL.'

#microfiction ?

Miss Gayle 23h ago

@Urban_Hermit @Orb2069 @Strandjunker

I don't know how willing She really is to help some of these people...

To clarify, I think the teaching that all you have to do is spout a "correct" line of text and the Divine then "has" to accept that is wrong. You have to prove yourself with actions, with your money, with your words, and with your intentions.

Insert a speech, get eternal forgiveness and license to keep doing sh!t? Like a slot machine? No, not even.

That's not how any of this works...

D. Olifant 1d ago

@Urban_Hermit @Strandjunker Back in 2016, the evangelicals who used to be in my circle (before I left Facebook) proclaimed a commonly held evangelical belief about Trump.

That he's like David.

And that "God uses sinful man to accomplish his will."

That's where the endless forgiveness for his transgressions comes from.

Orb 2069 1d ago

Some people think words are for communicating their understanding to other equals to convince them.

Others think words exist to order and manipulate - the actual truth is only applied as a lubricant if necessary.

They're just making the noises necessary to get you to do what they want. Any 'truth' involved is coincidental.

@Urban_Hermit @Strandjunker

derptron 1d ago

@oli @Urban_Hermit @Strandjunker They're right and if you read 2 Thesselonians 2 you kinda come to understand exactly what it is Trump is being used for and yeah...

He's a honeypot for the damned. He's a good one, being completely damned himself.

It's too bad that doesn't dawn on them.

It's right there in the Bible though. The goal is continued delusion so that they continue to harden their hearts and walk straight into the fire. Because they delight in wickedness and will choose hell.

Miss Gayle 23h ago

@crazyeddie @oli @Urban_Hermit @Strandjunker

It's like they read the words (presumably), but can't comprehend what they're reading.

derptron 6h ago

@MissGayle @oli @Urban_Hermit @Strandjunker They don't read the words. Christians are generally really impressed by my knowledge of the Bible, like it's not sitting right there for them to read themselves.

I've actually only read half of it. Tops. Contrary to those who've never read it I actually don't believe it's the only, or best, or even a good source of spiritual truth.

The single greatest source of spiritual truth, the only way to salvation, and they won't read it.

Yeah. Sure.

Miss Gayle 5h ago

@crazyeddie @oli @Urban_Hermit @Strandjunker

It is a mythology for its time & place, perhaps.

But it's info is scientifically & historically inaccurate, not to mention ethically & morally lacking in many ways.

It certainly should not be taken literally - especially in English translations, which are more like interpretations in numerous places, and certainly not either the letter, context, or the spirit of the text.

They've imposed external ideologies (while claiming only others are).

Urban Hermit 2h ago

@MissGayle @crazyeddie @oli @Strandjunker
The 10 Commandments mentions human slaves (don't covet your neighbor's slaves) while NOT including slavery on a top 10 list of things God doesn't want you to do.

But that concept of God is so insecure and jealous that a belief in any other God is #1 on the list of prohibited things.

The 10 Commandments is not even morally solid enough to be posted in a public school, unless it is in a lesson on hypocrisy, propaganda, and psychological manipulation.

Miss Gayle 1h ago

@Urban_Hermit @crazyeddie @oli @Strandjunker

Agree completely. The whole Bible is a collection of origin myths that has been redacted, translated with bias, interpreted ideolically - all by men with social and political agendas.

It's not God's word. It's what a bunch of men imagined God would say.

Urban Hermit 23h ago

@oli @Strandjunker anybody who can say, "Yes, God is in favor of refugees fleeing for their lives being captured, treated inhumanely, sometimes bundled so tight they can not breath, and flown to another country where they are held in prisons without charges for an unknown length of time - that is God's will."

Those people are horrible bigots who have elevated minor differences in skin color or nationality or religion into mortal sins.

No forgiveness, no excuses. Enabling Devil's work.

Miss Gayle 23h ago

@Urban_Hermit @oli @Strandjunker

They worship a demon. It's that simple. And they'll deny it to the last breath.

Raven667 19h ago

@MissGayle @Urban_Hermit @oli @Strandjunker One thing I unfortunately learned as a child at my first funeral, when I had a childs guileless understanding, is that the adults around me who said "the Bible is literal truth" and that Heaven was real, didn't really believe what they were saying because they didn't act like they understood or internalized the practical consequences of people being functionally immortal. Then I could question and recontextualize religious teachings as practical applied philosophy and long family traditions, rather than whatever rationalizations these chuckleheads are doing.

D. G. Marshall 23h ago

@Urban_Hermit @Strandjunker

I've seen posts that say Trump was sent by God.

As a test.

The USA failed that test.

Twice.