@MissGayle @Urban_Hermit @oli @Strandjunker One thing I unfortunately learned as a child at my first funeral, when I had a childs guileless understanding, is that the adults around me who said "the Bible is literal truth" and that Heaven was real, didn't really believe what they were saying because they didn't act like they understood or internalized the practical consequences of people being functionally immortal. Then I could question and recontextualize religious teachings as practical applied philosophy and long family traditions, rather than whatever rationalizations these chuckleheads are doing.