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Jaap Burger 16h ago

The French government has announced the measures of its plan to accelerate electrification:

- a ban on gas boilers in new houses from the end of 2026
- increased support for replacing old heating with heat pumps
- 100 regions will pilot comprehensive heat transition plans to phase out gas by 2030

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https://www.info.gouv.fr/actualite/electrification-les-mesures-annoncees-par-le-gouvernement

Électrification : les mesures annoncées par le Gouvernement | info.gouv.fr

VIDÉO. Leasing social, pompes à chaleur, voitures électriques… : la France accélère son électrification pour réduire sa dépendance au gaz et au pétrole et renforcer sa souveraineté. Le soutien à l’électrification atteindra 10 milliards d’euros en 2030.

info.gouv.fr

Jaap Burger 16h ago

Doubling down on electric mobility:

- The social leasing scheme, which helps lower-income households switch to an EV, returns in June with double the capacity (2 x 50,000 cars)

- On top of this, support will be provided for an additional 50,000 EVs for 'frequent drivers' in the middle classes

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This should not replace 'dependence on oil' with 'dependence on imported vehicles'. French car makers should produce 400,000 EVs a year (2027) and one million by 2030

- Up to €100,000 of support for electric commercial/HDVs for SMEs

- Dedicated measures for industry and agrifood, such as ovens

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Benoît Régent-Kloeckner 15h ago

@burger_jaap Quite a bit sad that we are not taking this opportunity to shift away from individual transportation with >1T vehicules.

@BrKloeckner @burger_jaap
⬆️ This, and maybe even individual transportation in general. There is a lot of room for improvement on the public transport sector here…

Francis Cook 10h ago

@samy @BrKloeckner @burger_jaap this is classic country vs city thinking. It works in the Netherlands because of population density. There are many areas in France where you’d serve 3 houses and a dog on a bus line taking hours in either direction. Bus routes are essential but you need to be able to make them work or swallow the cost when they don’t.

@dianshuo @BrKloeckner @burger_jaap
I agree. You can’t compare NL and F in that regard. But public transport should be seen as a public service and not a commercial success primarily, IMO.
Even in a very remote area in D would there at least be a bus once in a while.
Here there is just nothing. We are trying French countryside without a car and it is a real challenge, even along a „major“ TER line, which half the time is out of order with zero replacement.

Francis Cook 9h ago

@samy @BrKloeckner @burger_jaap then your transport needs to be a state entity. Or at least your country side part needs to be. You also need some level of state price control. Otherwise your 3hr countryside bus is €30 a ride which also doesn’t work. Lastly recognise the bus at distance is for communication not commuting.

Petra van Cronenburg 9h ago

@dianshuo It's important to know that local/regional transport is more a responsability of the regional Conseil Générale and local authorities, not the central government.
So you find big differences between regions, and some ideas even come from the people and are invisible. I live in a region with bad public transport on the mountains, and even one bus a day would be too expensive. But every village has a parking place for covoiturage, carpooling. We have apps

@samy @BrKloeckner @burger_jaap

Petra van Cronenburg 8h ago

@dianshuo for connecting. We have apps to ask people to bring us our shopping stuff from drive ins when they take the same direction.

Of course, we do need much more public transport but reality is like @dianshuo described it well. The other reality is that most of the remote communities are very poor, and prefer to invest in schools and other important structures.

Nevertheless, a lot has changed already!

@samy @BrKloeckner @burger_jaap

Benoît Régent-Kloeckner 8h ago

@samy @burger_jaap I did note exclude all individual transportation because of 1) bicycle 2) some areas/situations where a car is a proportionate mean of traveling, as soon as it is not a bulldozer.

MidgePhoto 6h ago

@BrKloeckner @burger_jaap
I don't think anything prevents installation of showers etc at work, secure bike parking, additional rapid transport on a grid, the extension of containerised freight to units of a side around a metre length and fractions of it, and to a fine grid of collection and delivery points etc.
Big job though.

Benoît Régent-Kloeckner 2h ago

@Photo55 @burger_jaap And our national plans do nothing in this direction, that's my point.

MidgePhoto 2h ago

@BrKloeckner @burger_jaap Yours and Sir Roger Bannister's[1]

[1] A leader in the BMJ last century. (A Neurologist, ran a mile faster than anyone else, back a while.

Troed Sångberg 13h ago

@burger_jaap I would feel bad for the french though if only french cars are included and not european in general ... ;)

/owner of both a Renault and a Volkswagen

Francis Cook 10h ago

@troed @burger_jaap I really hope the new Renault EVs are better than the electrics in their forebears.

Benjamin Braatz 9h ago

@dianshuo @troed @burger_jaap Our Renault Zoë is a nice car. They had affordable EVs quite some time before the German manufacturers.

Francis Cook 7h ago

@HeptaSean @troed @burger_jaap I like the Zoe but it’s a bit small for us. The German EVs are really not very good they all seem “swap out the old engine for new” and drive poorly with no distance (also why are they all so small inside?!)

Troed Sångberg 6h ago

Yeah we waited until VW's latest platform which is where they first started doing what I consider to be "EV from the beginning". We have the ID.7 which might be a bigger car than what you're thinking of, but we're very happy with it in all aspects.

@HeptaSean @burger_jaap

Francis Cook 6h ago

@troed @HeptaSean @burger_jaap when we were looking, the ID.4 was just out. The 7 looks nice (bit like a BYD). Next one I’d probably get an EV9 or I’d love a Li motors EV (not going to get that here).

MidgePhoto 6h ago

@dianshuo @HeptaSean @troed @burger_jaap
I like my VW ID.3 which was designed from scratch as a BEV.
I didn't love the C4e which wasn't.
The R5 though looks rather cute.

Petra van Cronenburg 8h ago

@troed They only want that their industry produces more. With these subsidies, you are completely free to choose your car. That's why I'm surrounded by Teslas (from Germany) - in the beginning they were nearly the only EVs available.
Meanwhile, you can even order a small Citroen Ami EV at the FNAC (a bookshop!)

Aurora 🐌9h ago

@burger_jaap Could be also a good idea support the moratorium of Data Centers that consume too much energy. So the energy could be used in better ways.

Petra van Cronenburg 8h ago

@CorioPsicologia France is investing largely into an own AI industry ...