The Vasa sank in 1628 because the people who knew it would sink didn't feel able to say so to the people who could have done something about it.

We wrote up the full case study — Vasa Syndrome, authority gradients, and what the sister ship tells us about organisational learning.

https://psychsafety.com/the-vasa-disaster/

The Vasa

The Vasa Disaster A few years ago, I was working for a client in Stockholm and in some free time, I visited the wreck of the Vasa, the world’s best-preserved 17th-century ship. She’s housed in a museum built specifically around […]

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Thank for sharing this very interesting article. 👍
@tom_geraghty I wonder if OpenAi's IPO will be the launch of the Vasa for LLMs.

@tom_geraghty "four groups of people, working on the same ship, without any shared and agreed standard."

This is your typical enterprise in miniature 😁🥴

Great write-up, Tom.

@tom_geraghty Fascinating case study to how organizational culture can demand catastrophic failure. I like the twenty sunken Manila galleons also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_galleon
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Quite an interesting read, thanks! Modern corporations are essentially dictatorships, where an executive can fire someone for anything negative, or really anything at all. Or prevent any future promotions.

I don't think that's a solvable problem in for-profit corporations.

@tom_geraghty and with the wonderful progress of time we have come so far that those who know now finally feel safe to speak up while the people who can do something are still not listening. Oh, well… too bad we don’t have 400 more years.
@tom_geraghty this was one of my favorite museums from my travels in Europe. Very unique
@tom_geraghty I have visited the Vasa Museum. It is incredible.
@tom_geraghty Very good article, thanks for posting about it! I’ll definitely share it at work not to point out anything but something to be aware of 😃
@tom_geraghty oooph. The groupthink is strong with that one.

@tom_geraghty 😎 In my career, I've worked on two books—20 years apart—that identified similar issues of mission creep and the inability of lower-level people to right the ship, so to speak.

Those are: "Tyranny of Consensus: Discourse and Dissent in National Security Policy," by Janne E. Nolan (2013), and "Narcissistic Process and Corporate Decay: The Theory of the Organizational Ideal," by Howard S. Schwartz (1992).

@tom_geraghty I've visited Vasamuseet three times and I'd go a fourth time next Stockholm trip!

So I had to read that post and boy I was so not disappointed. Very nicely written!

@tom_geraghty they should call ths stockholm syndrome

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"It looks like a demonstration ship – one designed to satisfy an ego rather than to perform"

... in other words, a 17th-century Cybertruck?

I mainly know about the Vasa because the Swedish post office released a set of stamps in 1969 featuring engravings on the ship and various of its carvings (the stamps themselves were designed by a very famous stamp engraver).

That's such a succinct way of putting it.

@tom_geraghty Vasa is probably one of my favorite Swedish artefacts and I love that we have an entire museum dedicated to it. We wouldn't have such a well-preserved ship if it wasn't absolutely dogshit.

Honestly, that makes me think about the way our perception of history might be skewed because the things that survive to get into museums are whatever things people didn't completely use up, and sometimes they didn't use it up because it was terrible.

One example of this I've seen play out is fantasy authors looking at jousting armor for inspiration, cus that's what a lot of museums have. It's not that those armors are terrible for their intended purpose, but it's a little like a far future historical fiction writers putting their 21st century soldiers in Hockey pads and football helmets. Like those are authentic 21st century armor, but it still looks pretty funny to see someone wearing on the battlefield.