Man I wish scrollbars were something other than a faint whisper at the edge of the screen these days.
@dorian @arrjay Seriously. (I say replying to a chat that is half a day from current)

@dorian my empire for a single modern Gtk theme that doesn't have the same pill-shaped scrollbar

like this is enough for me to make a whole ass GUI toolkit

@dorian bring back visible UI!
@dorian That is absolutely one of the worst design shifts in software ever.
@dorian Agreed — I’d love for them to be more than, like, *two pixels wide*
@dorian Mac System 6 had em right.
@dragonfrog @dorian A lot of stuff used to be adjustable in Windows.
No more.
@dorian And then they disappear just before you can grab them

@dorian I based my choice of OS and desktop environment entirely around this. Plus window borders that are wide enough to grab.

Not kidding.

LXQt, if anyone is interested. Out of the box it's just as bad as KDE but it comes with a selection of retro themes that restore the UI glory of yore in a way that I couldn't quite get right in KDE.

@rimu @dorian Weirdly enough, lxqt and kde plasma both show exactly the same widget plugins for me: breeze, oxgen, fusion and windows 95. I like Oxygen because you can set the width of the scrollbar and its buttons 🙂

But things were more fun back when you could still build a widget theme out of png images so you could have fluffy, furry buttons!

@dorian yes! also, window borders. try grabbing one using a touchpad…
@fishidwardrobe @dorian I'm happy enough if the title bar is big enough and there is a resize triangle bottom-right.

@dorian scroll-bars are like copy/paste, a faint memory of their past glory.

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@dorian I disagree about the width, but wish scrollbars were more obvious than ghostly wisps.
@dorian @HollieK72 So f'ing much.

@dorian Also, text adventure websites??? (Checked your profile) Any links you can share?

@HollieK72

The Front Door

@dorian Yes! Thank - you.
@GinevraCat it's not super well polished, maybe someday I'll get back to it.
@abstractcode @dorian I get that all the time with Office 365 apps, when you open or select a previously open document you have no idea where the scroll bar is.
@dorian @patterfloof "what's that in the corner?" "that's the option to take the scrollbar and shove it into the designer where the sun doesn't shine" "Is that used often?" "Often only once..."

@chloeraccoon @dorian what's that in the corner?
that's me with a spy glass
looking for the scrollbar

(also bring back pagination on search results)

@patterfloof @dorian Spy glass? Spell casting....
@dorian I remain of the opinion that Win95/98 had the pinnacle of UI visual design. It's all been downhill since then.
@dorian I also find it interesting how some websites are nowadays displaying a horizontal reading progress bar when you're scrolling through their vertical content. If only there was a more intuitive way to display where you currently are on the page 🤔
@dorian I also wish they would appear when I hover over them and not just when I gesture on the trackpad. Looking at you, MacOS.
@dorian Making user interface controls which vanish until you hover over the invisible magic spot is EVIL, whether it be scrollbars, buttons, docks, status bars... or links in websites.
EVIL.

@dorian

I am older with poor eyesight, so this also drove me crazy. A friend who knows more about computer stuff showed me how to make the scrollbar thicker by sending me this link to the "How To" trick. I set my width to 30, and it's perfect, very visible and easy to grab with the cursor.

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=393047