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thedoh 🇨🇦

When you see your media telling you that Canadians aren't going to the United states because of tariffs, I implore you to understand that the tariffs are the least of the reasons why.

First and foremost is the threat of military conquest.

Second, is the kidnapping of Canadians by ICE, being held for months without charge.

Third, the United States is fomenting sedition in the province of Alberta.

Fourth is the illegal trade war and tariffs.

There are certainly other reasons such as the American leadership is, or are, protecting pedos, and how the United States is threatening to annex Canada's neighbour, Greenland, and their invasion of Venezuela, and so on.

The tariffs are the smallest part and not even the whole story of that part.

mapleleafroundel

@thedoh And let’s be clear… it’s not because tariffs make things more expensive for Canadians specifically. They just don’t.

Agree on 1 and 2 and 3.

Maddad ☑️Feb 17

Please avoid coming here at all costs, it's not safe for anyone, not even us, unless you are white and your descendants came over on the Mayflower.

Karl Auerbach Feb 17

@thedoh I know some people who hold dual US/Canadian citizenship. Their residence is in the US.

They fear visiting Canada. Why? Not because of Canada. Rather, they fear that the US could decide that because they are Canadian that the US could ignore their US citizenship (and residence) and block their return home.

In other words, they have concerned that should they ever leave the US, particularly to another country in which they hold citizenship, that they may have crossed a ratcheting barrier and might not be able to return home.

thedoh 🇨🇦Feb 17

@karlauerbach I have dual citizenship and live in Canada (I left during Bush 2) and even I won't go back to visit. Citizenship is meant to guarantee entry, but I've been hassled by 🇺🇸 border guards before, many years ago, and have no desire to repeat that experience and/or risk being sent to a concentration camp.

I advise everybody not to visit the US. It's sad that some Canadians who reside in the US with US citizenship are fearful to leave because of re-entry concerns. In theory it shouldn't happen because we have to travel with our passport of the destination country: If I go to the US, I need to use my US passport. When I come home to Canada, I need to use my Canadian passport. But also in theory there is supposed to be due process, so, there you go.

Mike Fraser Feb 17

@thedoh It's funny how the American news media spins low Canadian travel numbers as some sort of economic protest. No dude we just don't want to end up in a concentration camp.

Cluster Fcku Mar 11

@mike @thedoh yeah, more so considering lots of wonderful canadians are simply not white at all

javensbukan Mar 11

@mike @thedoh Or that were butthurt about tarrifs (we are!) but also, drop dead (economically).

You want us to wither and die so we'll join you, which is *never* going to happen bubs.

RantingCanuck Mar 11

This!

If Canada and the US were simply in a trade dispute (i.e. there was nothing happening beyond tariffs) you would only see minor changes in travel. Look at the history of the trade dispute over softwood lumber (in which the US has applied arguably illegal tariffs multiple times). While there was a tariff inspired dispute it didn't lead to US boycotts.

However when you start threatening annexation, and that is what calling us the '51st state' is, Canadians will respond very differently and now you see US boycotts.

Then you add the threat of being shipped off to a concentration camp and avoiding the US become a no brainer.

🥑 Yours Truly! Unruly 🇨🇦🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻Mar 11

This Canadian will never set foot in a country run by a pedophile, rapist, racist, murdering, egomaniac and his supporters.

Vive la résistance

LukefromDC Mar 11

@thedoh I am actually advising US refugees heading for Canada to be ready to have to defend their adopted country from a war of conquest by the Fascist regime they fled.

Same as fleeing Russia and moving to Ukraine when you get right down to it.

cwicseolfor 3d ago

@thedoh I wonder sometimes if the people who fall for the tariff BS or have any tolerance for any of the administration's lawless racist eugenic savagery are even on Mastodon. Speaking from a US perspective it's hard to get the messages in front of the ones who are susceptible, because most of the ones susceptible only are so because they're isolated from messages from anyone but those enabled by the current tide of power - in short they're not really online, or only in very captured corporate spaces like Facebook. I used to do a lot of outreach on that contingent in person, but everyone liable to listen in my circles is either converted by this point, or dead.

thedoh 🇨🇦3d ago

@cwicseolfor I think part of it is that people are simply not being told the full story.

cwicseolfor 3d ago

@thedoh I'd very much agree, or they're getting a nonsense - that is, lies - version that's more misinfo than disinfo. As stated I used to do a lot of talking it over with those. If your instance federates with Threads or even Bluesky, I think this is just the right message needed. If not I suspect we on proper fedi are all likely to be already in the choir.

Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊3d ago

Tariffs are the reason I'm not buying American booze.

The rest of it is why I'm not getting within 30km of the border without a gun pointed at my head.

David Todd McCarty 3d ago

I don’t know anyone here in America who thinks Canadians aren’t visiting because of tariffs. We know.

AnnieBuddy 3d ago

Yes, please. Send this to your municipal and state governments.

I don’t know why this message is not getting through, but it is really tiring to have to repeat this over and over and over again. It isn’t about the money. It’s about our country, our safety, our future.