Car just drove by and one of the guys in it made the ๐Ÿˆ๐Ÿ‘… gesture out the window at me.

Not sure if it was an observation based on my aesthetic, or the threat of a ๐Ÿฐgood time๐Ÿฐ, but either way...guys, this is why y'all're still single.

@alice I never realised how bad it was for women until my wife had me follow her at a discreet distance while she was jogging on her own. I learnt why she only went jogging with me and that many men should not be allowed out into the world with supervision.
@rbphotographic @alice Same for my wife and I. There are certain gas stations she avoids because of where they are and the type of men who frequent them. We also always go food shopping together or I go by myself because she ALWAYS has something happen.
@blainsmith @rbphotographic @alice I stopped grocery shopping. I hated it. I figure skate for exercise because itโ€™s mostly women and gay men at the rink. I spend so much time with (mostly well behaved but oblivious) men at work that I mostly go to women-centered spaces now, especially if itโ€™s on my own.
@irene @blainsmith @rbphotographic @alice theyโ€™ll bother you in a grocery shop? Regularly?

@Colman @irene @rbphotographic @alice My wife has told me she's experienced:

- Long uncomfortable stares
- Whistling
- Being followed around the store
- Random comments under their breadth

All of which were different men every time and she knows to just call me and I will answer to just be on the phone.

@blainsmith @Colman @rbphotographic @alice when I was pretty young (15 or 16), my mom would send me to the store. Once a man blocked me between his car and mine and tried to get me to go home and have sex with him for money in the grocery store parking lot. Catcalls were common when I was younger and lived in the Midwest or Boston. In Seattle, I had someone ask me out in the pasta aisle. If itโ€™s hot and I wear a dress people will make creepy (but probably what they think are complimentary) comments. My 60-ish year old neighbor made a point of interrupting me and commenting when I was washing my car on my driveway in a tennis dress.
@irene @blainsmith @rbphotographic @alice and here I am trying to figure out non-creepy ways of complimenting my younger but adult ballerina colleagues on their dancing.

@Colman "you are impressively talented", "you are an amazing dancer", "I'm humbled to share a stage with someone who puts in so much effort".

Say it lightly, around other people, and then continue whatever else you were doing and let them decide whether or how to take your compliment. If they chase you up to say thanks, then you did good. If they don't, then you said something kind and that's all there is to it.

I hear a lot of guys saying things like "I don't know how to compliment a woman", and my best answer is that you do it without expecting anything in return. Most people can tell when a compliment is genuine and when it's manipulative.

@irene @blainsmith @rbphotographic

@alice @Colman @irene @blainsmith @rbphotographic

As an older guy who works with a lot of younger women, if I ever give them a compliment it is a completely neutral phrase like "you look amazing". No implication of attraction involved. "You look great" seems safe. What do you think?

@negative12dollarbill @alice @irene @blainsmith @rbphotographic I also have the disability of being brought up in London and Ireland in the 70s so compliments are a foreign language to start with.

Also, keep in mind that they are scantily dressed so I'm definitely safest not noticing anything about their appearance!

@Colman @negative12dollarbill @alice @blainsmith @rbphotographic ya know, not every thought has to be voiced. You can think to yourself that outfit looks great on you and not say it to a woman. Itโ€™s totally fine if you go through life without ever complimenting a woman on how they look. We really wonโ€™t mind
@irene @Colman @negative12dollarbill @alice @rbphotographic Exactly. Unfortunately, its just years and years of old customs passed on to kids over time until some break the cycle. Hopefully, my son is learning by seeing how I treat/act around women so he grows up a better man than I am. My dad did his best for me during the generation I grew up in and I can only keep that going and pass it on while also adding my own views.