@Gargron your choices for Space on this level is either US , China, Russia or India none of which are being very nice right now …
Oh or a Billionaire and we know how lovely they are
RE: https://mastodon.social/@markmccaughrean/116340135453431627
@64bithero @Gargron just a reminder the US isn't doing this alone.
@saxnot @ikuturso @64bithero @Gargron yeah 😞
Sad to see the efforts of so many people squashed and hidden.
@Hammerwell @Gargron humans in space has done very little to move the needle forward this is true.
I’d love another voyager esque project or even a rover.
@Gargron It feels the same way from here in the US.
But: It was really wonderful to see my kids excited to watch the launch, and to have something to be proud of in our country that is not attacks on other countries and raids on our neighbors.
@Gargron I’m an American and I feel the same.
This should be something to be proud of, but... to be honest... I'm just sad and angry right now.
surprised anybody cares about the pitiful distraction of taking a spin around the moon -- something we already did in 1968
we already know some pix of earth from the moon are not 'science" nor do they bring peace on earth
& now the space industry is mostly that, an industry to expand the pockets and egos of billionaires who traffic women & will stop at nothing to make sure the majority of people are never free
bah humbug i say!!!
yup, the #USA fucking sucks
that dampers enthusiasm for #Artemis #Artemis2 #ArtemisII
i say:
be happy for #JeremyHansen, first Canadian in deep #space
and his mission patch was designed by #Anishaabe artist #HenryGuimond, referencing the Teachings of the Seven Grandfathers
"Hansen asked Guimond to design a personal patch for his flight suit after participating in a vision quest at Turtle Lodge Centre of Excellence"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/manitoba-indigenous-artist-artemis-ii-patch-9.7148013
' #NASA astronaut #VictorGlover, recently named as the pilot of the #ArtemisII #Artemis2 #Artemis mission around the Moon, listens to #GilScottHeron's poem "Whitey on the Moon" twice a week on the way to work'
A rat done bit my sister Nell
(with Whitey on the Moon)
Her face and arms began to swell
(and Whitey's on the Moon)
I can't pay no doctor bill
(but Whitey's on the Moon)
Ten years from now I'll be paying still
(while Whitey's on the Moon)
@benroyce @Gargron In 1969 and again in 2026, Science News editors also made the connections between accomplishments in space and failures on Earth:
"It is impossible to minimize the astronauts’ accomplishment. But the verdict of #history may well be that, while the world erupted, we ignored the real challenge and chased a rocket trail to the #moon."
#war #Artemis #poverty
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/ed-note-april-2026
@benroyce @Gargron This is awesome, I did not know that about Glover. I posted a Youtube earlier of Gil Scott Heron performing the poem, and how it's still apt.
I haven't looked—has the orange madman said anything about the composition of this crew? I can't imagine he lavish any praise without making some sort of snide remark.
Of course
Trump found out there was a Canadian on board Artemis so he starts babbling about Wayne Gretsky
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/apr/07/trump-artemis-ii-crew-call-nasa-cuts
@Gargron As an American I also feel the same.
For one of my posts I did draft and delete a comment saying something similar, but didn't want to feel like a downer. I respect the honesty.
The other side of it is that the current US budget means NASA is killing science missions to ensure putting humans back on the moon is it's #1 priority. In 2026 I don't believe the scientific value is there to choose the least economic way to study the moon.
It's not an honest U.S. American Moon mission, without a cruel war going on that was initiated by the USA.
Vietnam... Iran, what's a few geopolitical details among friends?
Been there, done that:
"Ah, you may leave here, for four days in space,
But when your return, it's the same old place…"
Barry McGuire | "Eve of Destruction" (1965)

tell the truth, you're sad about the strikes in Novorossiysk
@Gargron You might be surprised to learn how many parts of the Artemis missions are actually from Europe via ESA and other parts of the world. The US doesn't like to share that, but it's true :)
Example: https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Human_and_Robotic_Exploration/Orion/European_Service_Module
@Gargron I put it like this: "Every dollar spent for a space mission is a dollar not spent for war"
It helps me at least