Gina16h ago

Well, this is unfortunate.

"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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Show threadJakeKb15h ago
@Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?
Show threadGina
@JakeKb I'd recommend #Jitsi for individual users.
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Show threadCassandrich15h ago

@Gina @JakeKb Seriously, Signal. I switched from Jitsi to Signal for meetings on the project I'm working on now, because of minor technical issues, and it's worked better anyway.

Now, Signal might not meet your needs for this if participants don't want to disclose their Signal usernames/phone-numbers, since Signal doesn't really do "multiple accounts" like they should. But if it does work, it's great, and actually private.

Show thread⠠⠵ avuko5h ago

@dalias @Gina @JakeKb

There’s Wire too:

https://wire.com/en/

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Show threadTrev 10h ago
@Gina @JakeKb where do you host your Jitsi server? Would it maybe be a cloud hosting provider who is also vulnerable to a subpoena? The way I read it is: video relays for P2P by video suck. I know this because I can consider myself lucky if I spin up a Jitsi and have it go without incident. I once tried the FSF Jitsi instance and it was down right broken.