Gina1d ago

Well, this is unfortunate.

"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

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Show threadJakeKb
@Gina Irrelevant question, but is there an actual private video-call platform and if yes which is it?
Apr 3 at 1:45pmWeb
Show threadGina1d ago
@JakeKb I'd recommend #Jitsi for individual users.
Show threadCassandrich23h ago

@Gina @JakeKb Seriously, Signal. I switched from Jitsi to Signal for meetings on the project I'm working on now, because of minor technical issues, and it's worked better anyway.

Now, Signal might not meet your needs for this if participants don't want to disclose their Signal usernames/phone-numbers, since Signal doesn't really do "multiple accounts" like they should. But if it does work, it's great, and actually private.

Show thread⠠⠵ avuko14h ago

@dalias @Gina @JakeKb

There’s Wire too:

https://wire.com/en/

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Show threadTrev 18h ago
@Gina @JakeKb where do you host your Jitsi server? Would it maybe be a cloud hosting provider who is also vulnerable to a subpoena? The way I read it is: video relays for P2P by video suck. I know this because I can consider myself lucky if I spin up a Jitsi and have it go without incident. I once tried the FSF Jitsi instance and it was down right broken.
Show threadRegendans1d ago

@JakeKb @Gina If you have 75 or less video call attendees then Signal can be your E2EE video-call choice.

https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360052977792-Group-Calling-Voice-or-Video

Group Calling - Voice or Video

Like all Signal messages, group voice and group video calls are private too. You will be prompted to grant the Camera and Microphone permissions the first time you make or receive a Signal call.  G...

Signal Support
Show threadLucas Bentley22h ago

@regendans @JakeKb @Gina
Signal works for those who have a cell phone only I believe.

I use @hostpoint and KMeet from Infomaniak for individual video calls (ex. My Mom).

Show threadKye.br 21h ago
@bentley_lucas @regendans @JakeKb @Gina @hostpoint Now I believe you can have accounts that are not tied to a phone number.
Show threadgroxx20h ago
@Kyebr @bentley_lucas @regendans @JakeKb @Gina @hostpoint (someone please correct me if needed, I would love to be wrong but)
You still need that phone number to set up or (IIRC) log back into an account from scratch on a new device. What changed is that you no longer have to *reveal* that phone number so people can contact you (usernames), and you can disable "people can contact me by phone number" (forcing only the username).
Show threadĞÖKÜ👻👻™22h ago
@JakeKb @Gina signal
Show threadBleistifterin22h ago
@JakeKb @Gina we use BigBlueButton. It sometimes glitches, but usually it works fine
Show threaderrorbody21h ago

@JakeKb @Gina

Hey. I've been using digitalsamba recently. It's a platform from Spain.

https://www.digitalsamba.com/

They have a free version. I hope it fits your needs.

Free Video Conferencing from Europe | Digital Samba

Enjoy free, secure video calls with no sign-up, no tracking, and no bloat. 100% European-hosted. A privacy-first alternative to Zoom, Teams, and Meet.

Show threadRobert Sander17h ago
@JakeKb @Gina https://opencloud.eu
Excellent file sharing - secure, simple, reliable. Start now.

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