Elena Rossini ⁂Apr 2

RE: https://mas.to/@Aubreader/116330793703168577

This article is a must read.

An excerpt: “Why would anyone fund an Atmosphere project if #Bluesky, with $100 million in the bank, might ship a competing feature at any moment? Why would a founder bet their career on this ecosystem? The presentation didn't just hurt Graze. It made the entire ecosystem look unfundable.”

Why do I keep bringing up this topic?

Because #ATproto is often put in the same category as #ActivityPub (“open protocols yay”) but I strongly disagree with that stance

Show threadLumiWorxApr 2

@_elena

After reading, it leaves me with concerns that are not dev related.

1. If there's xlarge $ infusions involved, it means profit will always be 1st, and fuck the tech. They will never care.

2. If they'll eat their young once - and don't wince about it - they WILL do it again and enjoy it more aggressively every time.

3. Once they have a taste of their own, they'll feed on other's 'outside the family'.

They want performing monkeys, not projects with merit.

Show threadElena Rossini ⁂6d ago
@lumiworx I sometimes feel like I'm not a good "team player" when I point out weaknesses in the ATproto world. Big elephant in the room: the 100 million dollars in VC money by crypto bros. A lot of people I cherish are all for promoting both protocols (ATproto and ActivityPub), but I remain highly skeptical. And afraid. ATproto gives me big EEE vibes
Show threadEugen Rochko6d ago
@_elena @lumiworx I for one am not one of those people. For me it's ActivityPub only.
Show threadElena Rossini ⁂6d ago

@Gargron @lumiworx very nice to hear that Eugen.

Fellow member of team ActivityPub only 🙋🏻‍♀️

Show threadEvan Prodromou6d ago

@_elena @Gargron @lumiworx

I am also, but maybe in a different way.

As someone who helped create ActivityPub and works every day to promote its use, I absolutely believe that everyone should make and use ActivityPub-native software. At SWF, we only do ActivityPub projects.

But if a developer chooses to build on ATProto, and to make their software and accounts bridgeable so we can stay connected, that's infinitely better than being cut off entirely.

Show threadEvan Prodromou

@_elena @Gargron @lumiworx

I mentioned elsewhere that I think supporting the openness of the Atmosphere is important for whatever comes next there. Whether BlueSky thrive or don't survive, the more the ATproto stack is standardized and independent, the better it is for the Fediverse.

Apr 3 at 12:52pmWeb
Show threadEvan Prodromou6d ago

@_elena @Gargron @lumiworx

I think it would be really great to work with companies like Graze to get their software to support ActivityPub also. That could be through the bridge or through the ActivityPub API or the Mastodon API. For them, it's hedging their bets, and for us, it's more developers in our ecosystem providing more functionality.

Show threadEvan Prodromou6d ago
@_elena @Gargron @lumiworx I also think that A New Social has been doing great work to make new applications on the ATproto stack, like long form text with https://standard.site/ , available as Articles on the Fediverse. Whether through bridging or dual stack clients, all data and accounts connected to ActivityPub is a plus.
Standard.site - One schema. Every platform.

Standard.site provides shared lexicons for long-form publishing on AT Protocol. Making content easier to discover, index, and move across the ATmosphere.

Show threadElena Rossini ⁂6d ago
@evan absolutely 💯