Quasit4d ago

Here's the problem: To even turn things back to the way they were 20 years ago would take a President as ruthless and unchallenged as Trump himself. Or a President, House, Senate, SCOTUS and Federal judiciary that would be completely behind that level of reform. Plus a ruthless purging of all the apparatchiks that Trump and his team have ensconced throughout the federal bureaucracy.

Tell me truthfully, do you believe that that will ever happen? Is there any doubt in your mind that if a Democratic Presidential nominee manages to win they will do ANYTHING to roll back the huge surges we've made toward fascism under Presidents from both parties over the last 40 years?

Is there any question that a Democratic president and Congress would just insist that it was time to look forward, not back, and to make sure that we have a nice diverse group of people running ICE, DHS and the border patrol? Maybe a little more diversity among the staff and inmates of the death camps that Trump has built?

If anything, aren't the Democrats likely to pass MORE funding for the military and ICE and DHS? Will they do a single goddamned thing to rein in Israel and it's genocide of Arabs in the Middle East?

If that's all we can expect under the best circumstances from the Democratic Party, why should we settle for that instead of the complete overthrow of the system that the world desperately needs? Under the status quo our extinction due to climate change and the effects of war will just be a little slower. Which hardly seems a kindness.

I await replies.

#Politics #Extinction #Democrats #Fascism

Show threadLightfighter3d ago
@Quasit Even if all changes for the last 20 years were rolled back it wouldn't solve the problem. Trump has shown many of the weaknesses of the Constitution and laws of the US. Without significant structural changes, fascism is only an election away.
Show threadTiota Sram3d ago

@Lightfighter @Quasit indeed one can pseudo-empirically ask the question "do Democratic institutions protect counties against dictatorship" and look around at countries like Italy, Hungary, Britain, and Israel to see that they do not.

Liberals love to ask anarchists "but how would your society of free association ever prevent a dictator from rising to power? It's an excellent question that every person should be able to try to answer about their favorite political system, but it seems the liberals have forgotten to ask it about theirs. We can see right now in very fine detail exactly how the "checks and balances" can be systematically dismantled, sidestepped, or just ignored. Even if the system eventually reins Trump in, its failure to stop any of his worst impulses before they happened makes it feel like a very hollow sort of success. Alex Pretti doesn't benefit from a (very hypothetical at this point) swing back towards a less corrupt and fascist system.

Show threadAnarchist Trans Ace Pirate3d ago

@tiotasram @Lightfighter @Quasit

when "checks and balances" are taught no one bothers to ask how that works when all parties involved do nothing

Show threadLightfighter3d ago
@coolcalmcollected @tiotasram @Quasit There are no mechanisms to enforce most of the checks and balances. SCOTUS rulings are just opinions written on paper. Congressional subpoenas the same. While the Executive has an army of LEO's and the Army.
Show threadQuasit3d ago

@Lightfighter @coolcalmcollected @tiotasram

The only real check or balance is the people themselves. We should have risen up and overthrown the rich bastards DECADES ago.

Show threadLightfighter3d ago
@Quasit @coolcalmcollected @tiotasram They have done a great job of propaganda on us. The anti-communist/socialist, pro evangelical christiian positions have been drilled into us from childhood since the 40's has had its desired effect. Our "liberal" party is closer to Reagan republicans than anything, and if we gathered every leftist in the country I think we'd have trouble filling two professional football stadiums.
Show threadAnarchist Trans Ace Pirate3d ago

@Lightfighter @Quasit @tiotasram

whenever I see a post about "the left" it's 99% about American democrats which isn't remotely "the left" since (bare minimum) clinton

Show threadQuasit3d ago
@coolcalmcollected @Lightfighter @tiotasram
The Democrats are fascists, and have been for a long time. Their job is to play leftists on TV, and thereby discredit the whole concept of a left in America. They are the primary shock troops of the oligarchs against true leftism. And they really love their work, because they hate our guts.
Show threadLightfighter
@Quasit @coolcalmcollected @tiotasram The only people they will instantly attack is someone slightly to their left.
Apr 2 at 9:21pmWeb
Show threadQuasit3d ago

@Lightfighter @coolcalmcollected @tiotasram
And whenever they are dealing with Republicans, they can't fling themselves on their backs and spread their legs fast enough!

It's amazing that Democratic voters don't realize that that's not a bug or a weakness. It's their whole reason for being: to lubricate the entry of fascism in America, and normalize it.