Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

— Iceland in the EU
— Britain rejoining the EU
— Norway fully joining the EU
— All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
— Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
— An end to European collaboration with American NSA
— More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
— Rise of European streaming services
— Full bankruptcy of Tesla

(Joking, but still…)

@randahl

I realise you are not entirely serious, but as far as the UK is concerned, Brexit fanatics and Trump wannabes are still leading in the polls, and the cowardly #labour government is more concerned to ape them (and the example of Denmark's Social Democrats) than credibly re-engage with the EU. We are still horribly exposed to the worst of US politics.

@iaruffell @randahl

The past decade has left me with a dire shortage of words to express my disappointment in Labour. You'd think it would have been trivial to out up a decent opposition to the clown circus of the Tories, but they didn't, and when they finally got power forced on them because the Tories were such an unmitigated disaster, Labour had no idea what to do with it.

Please replace them with the LibDems and Greens. And please not with Ukip/Reform.

@mcv @iaruffell @randahl My disappointment with Labour started when Tony Blair took the UK into the illegal invasion of Iraq.

The UK Greens on their current path seem to offer the only hope for a left leaning party of the people.

The UK FPTP political system forces the creation of large monolithic parties that have to be broad churches.

A socialist Green party will inevitably be pressured from within by capitalist Greens.

PR, of almost any flavour would be better than the current situation.

@the_wub @mcv @randahl

For me, the notion of a capitalist #Green is an oxymoron, but then again something similar might have been said by a#Labour member, once upon a time It is a vivid warning.

That said, under PR, the question always arises of where and how to compromise, without abandoning core principles. We have not yet been burned by this in Scotland, although it is something we often discuss in the light of other Green parties' experiences.

@iaruffell @mcv @randahl 1/2 The Christian People's Party (KrF) here in Norway traditionally forms coalitions with the non-Socialist parties' block.

A few years ago the then party leader started a referendum process in the party which, if it had succeeded would have opened for the party to join the Red-Green coalition block.

To me it seems a no-brainer for the KrF give the tenets of Christianity, caring for the weak and dispossessed etc to be able to form coalitions with the Red-Green block.

@iaruffell @mcv @randahl 2/2 However, due to procedural machinations the leader lost the vote and the KrF confirmed its position as a party only willing to form coalitions with the right wing non-socialist block.

In terms of the votes cast is was pretty much a dead heat, thus indicating the split between conservative Christians and those with more left wing politics.

Parties like the Greens and Christian parties both suffer from these kinds of divisions to a greater extent than other parties.