Everyone wants to get rid of Trump, but I am starting to think we should give him a third term and get

— Iceland in the EU
— Britain rejoining the EU
— Norway fully joining the EU
— All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
— Laws against US surveillance systems in Europe
— An end to European collaboration with American NSA
— More people switching to Mastodon to get away from Zuckerberg and Musk
— Rise of European streaming services
— Full bankruptcy of Tesla

(Joking, but still…)

@randahl
While that sounds attractive, are you sure humanity will survive four more years of malicious sabotage of all attempts at slowing climate warming, snipin at everything the hate-driven junta in Washington considers woke/DEI/communist? More wars started by the US?

@randahl

Can get all these without Trump or Republicans

@randahl Hopefully that can happen without Trump as well.
Looking 'over there', there are still many similar grifters, so ....... perhaps the trend can/will continue.
@randahl sure sounds nice, but it's also at the expense of the entire US population (and whoever they take down with them), which over the next generations would be used to breed more hatred of other countries, while the people responsible would just use their billions to move over to europe and do the same thing here... Meh, that's already ongoing anyway...

@randahl

If only it came with no toll...

@randahl

– Canada joins the EU
– We develop continent severing technology and float Canada on over
– EU goes carbon negative
– Putin dies and Ukraine joins the EU

@joshbuddy @randahl Can't we just modify Boris Johnson's ill-fated London Garden Bridge proposal and make it a bit longer?

Although it might be easier to break it into bits, hop from Scotland to Iceland, then to Greenland and then a short hop to Newfoundland.

That would give the option for the good peoples of Scotland, Iceland, Greenland and Newfoundland to earn some money providing services to travellers. Hotels, restaurants, campsites and so on.

Everybody wins!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_Bridge

Garden Bridge - Wikipedia

@randahl

Not to forget Canada wants to join EU.

@randahl My fellow veteran and non-veteran Americans that I know and myself say "Fuck no" to this. If he even tries there will be an uprising like we haven't had since our civil war. The armed forces will lead it too. It will be quick, and the powers that attempt such a thing will immediately be defeated. After typing all this, I may wish for the same thing now...the current administration is dumb enough to try.
@JDGeoShack @randahl Is that you VP Vance? 😂
@rjohnston @randahl LMAO like that douche canoe has the spine.

@randahl You forgot the radioactive wasteland they'll all be as they do this.

Sorry, hard to joke about it when we're very likely mere months away from nazis starting WWIII, this time with nukes...

As someone else here said before me: they can do all this without Trump and the Republicans. And they'll have more time to actually do it in if that doomsday timer isn't ticking down while they do it.

@randahl and don't forget a rush to install solar and wind energy to reduce dependence on fossil fuels...
@randahl Getting rid of Trump is more realistic...

@randahl It all makes sense. But if we want it, we can achieve it even without Trump.

To wish Americans another four years of Trump or Vance would make me a hateful idiot myself. The majority of Americans don’t deserve that.

@randahl

We don't need more devastation by Trump to do all of that. Get him out of office as soon as possible, and do all of these things anyway.

Also, I think we need to restructure the EU to allow further growth. The current structure is too inflexible, as demonstrated by our inability to handle Orban. I think we need various levels of membership that countries can move up or down in depending to how well they follow and implement EU rules. Joining and leaving should be easier, and follow simple but strict rules, instead of being the subject of all sorts of political games.

And rename it to the Federation of Nations. I still like that name.

@randahl

I realise you are not entirely serious, but as far as the UK is concerned, Brexit fanatics and Trump wannabes are still leading in the polls, and the cowardly #labour government is more concerned to ape them (and the example of Denmark's Social Democrats) than credibly re-engage with the EU. We are still horribly exposed to the worst of US politics.

@iaruffell @randahl

The past decade has left me with a dire shortage of words to express my disappointment in Labour. You'd think it would have been trivial to out up a decent opposition to the clown circus of the Tories, but they didn't, and when they finally got power forced on them because the Tories were such an unmitigated disaster, Labour had no idea what to do with it.

Please replace them with the LibDems and Greens. And please not with Ukip/Reform.

@mcv @iaruffell @randahl My disappointment with Labour started when Tony Blair took the UK into the illegal invasion of Iraq.

The UK Greens on their current path seem to offer the only hope for a left leaning party of the people.

The UK FPTP political system forces the creation of large monolithic parties that have to be broad churches.

A socialist Green party will inevitably be pressured from within by capitalist Greens.

PR, of almost any flavour would be better than the current situation.

@the_wub @mcv @randahl

For me, the notion of a capitalist #Green is an oxymoron, but then again something similar might have been said by a#Labour member, once upon a time It is a vivid warning.

That said, under PR, the question always arises of where and how to compromise, without abandoning core principles. We have not yet been burned by this in Scotland, although it is something we often discuss in the light of other Green parties' experiences.

@iaruffell @mcv @randahl 1/2 The Christian People's Party (KrF) here in Norway traditionally forms coalitions with the non-Socialist parties' block.

A few years ago the then party leader started a referendum process in the party which, if it had succeeded would have opened for the party to join the Red-Green coalition block.

To me it seems a no-brainer for the KrF give the tenets of Christianity, caring for the weak and dispossessed etc to be able to form coalitions with the Red-Green block.

@iaruffell @mcv @randahl 2/2 However, due to procedural machinations the leader lost the vote and the KrF confirmed its position as a party only willing to form coalitions with the right wing non-socialist block.

In terms of the votes cast is was pretty much a dead heat, thus indicating the split between conservative Christians and those with more left wing politics.

Parties like the Greens and Christian parties both suffer from these kinds of divisions to a greater extent than other parties.

@randahl

After the constantly cherry picking and whinging experience, and looking at the horribly repressive mess uk is in, it gets nearere to trumpisstan by the day.
I am ready to campaign against reentry to EU at any time.

— Iceland in the EU
— Norway fully joining the EU
— All EU countries switching to European weapons systems
— Laws against US surveillance in Europe
— An end to European collaboration with American NSA
— More people switching to Mastodon --Full Bankruptcy of Tesla

YES

@randahl It would be a good thing for the world, for Europe, but it would be a great sacrifice to ask off the American people, but, as a citizen of the EU I will say:
@randahl And all it costs would be a few million people in concentration camps.
@drahardja @randahl Most likely yes. Although there's always the risk of that happening anyway sadly.
@randahl I fully support your idea, however I don’t see “full russia collapse” and “Ukraine in EU” in the list. 🙂

@remm @randahl the collapse of Russia will happen independently of Trump. 10 years from now, Russia as of today will no longer exist. Ukraine in EU is also independent of Trump or might happen even quicker without Trump.

Nevertheless, I'll welcome all of the above events.

@randahl no matter what party ll take place in parliament, they all ll do the same things but with different routes. Every opposite party in every country only wants to get power by using sentiments of innocent people's. We all are watching all this shit from years

@randahl

Will Europe be able to accept tens of millions of economic refugees from the US? Canada won't take them all. And what with the millions of indentured servants treated like slaves? Do they deserve such a King? Will manhunts become an Olympic discipline or party of FIFA events, after both are banned from non-fascist countries? A third term of Trump would only be the first of many similar terms, with his youngest son on the helm and the presidency a hereditary position.

This comment doesn't have a "/s" moniker. Bc that wouldn't stand for #serious .

@randahl

....make fossil energy politically toxic even among conservative normies.

But maybe we can achive it by the midterms and limit the damage.

@randahl I think this is the Fascism Gene's last gasp, and yes I'm an optimist.
@randahl Oh and Tesla's fffffd anyway, BYD's decided to kill them.

@megatronicthronbanks @randahl Tesla only have two car models for sale.

BYD have a full range of vehicles in all classes. Not to mention commercial vehicles.

As do some manufacturers from Europe.

There is no way in the short or longer term that Tesla will be able to compete with such manufacturers.

Nor in terms of quality. I have yet to see a BYD car with bad panel gaps.

Looking at a couple of Xpeng cars in a ferry line up recently their quality control also seems to be spot on.

@randahl well.. the great Dutch philosopher Johan Cruijff once said: "every disadvantage has it's advantages"

@hermannus @randahl En andersom, and if I remember correctly in grammatically incorrect Dutch.

"Elk nadeel heb zijn voordeel."
"Elk voordeel heb zijn nadeel."

I am forced to admit though that I have never played football anywhere near as well as he did.

Moge hij in vrede rusten.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruijffiaans

Cruijffiaans - Wikipedia

@randahl unfortunately, current developments in the EU are not that positive regarding freedom, democracy and human rights. CDU playing stupid games in Germany. For example, in Baden-Württemberg they might try to not form a government with the Greens and then cause reelections. Merz, Spahn and Reiche are playing the Project 2025 playbook. And despite a recent defeat in Italy, Meloni still is on with weakening the judiciary in Italy. More Trump might not be the best thing.
@randahl - Dismantle NATO
- Kick the 60,000 US troops out of Europe.
@randahl I thought the same thing. Having Trump as president of the United States is painful but finally something is moving in the EU space.
@zbrando @randahl MEGA Trump — Make Europe Great Again! 😄

@randahl

- Replace VISA and Mastercard with other payment system

@randahl
We really do not need a third Trump's term for all of that.

Also, while it's generally agreed that Trump's USA is worse than anything before, we should consider that the USA have NEVER been a true friend of the "EU". It's their interest that Europe stays a group of separate, independent, divided countries. Always has been.

@randahl
In the UK, I've heard the idea posited that we should want ReformUK Ltd to win seats at the May local elections so they can demonstrate their incompetence to the electorate in advance of the general election, years out.
It's true that a push in one direction tends to initiate a harder counter push in the other, but what a dangerous strategy.
@randahl I have a dream🫶

@randahl

I agree to all you listed except the third term for Trump. He is a thread for us all, I couldn't take that. It would also be hard to bear for USA. Just remember what he has done and what he is doing.
But thank you for the list. It is inspiring.

@randahl

Or we could pass the hat and hire that mercenary we were considering?

@randahl Ha Ha,
But many a true word is spoken in jest.

Yes.
And I would like to see former colonies of Europe have preferential trade deals with EU and UK.

@randahl I mean, Europe could break out of its apathy on their own without there being a couple more Alex Prettis or Renee Goods in my country... Kinda a crap joke if ya ask me.

@randahl
😬 There was once a comedy routine of #JimJefferies about electing Trump where he jokingly said: "...fuck it. Let's do it. Lets see how crazy this shit gets.."

Well. We've seen it. We see the ruines and the deaths around the globe.
So i'd say. Nope. Not one inch more. Not one fucking day. Not even as a joke.
Hell no.

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@randahl I know you’re joking, but if every one of those things came to pass, none of it would change the material reality that Europe consumes ~5x more oil than it produces. And modern weapon systems are extremely dependent upon surplus mineral flows which another 7.5 billion folks are competing for

https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/116323647680598063

@randahl if he destroys Kharg, the worldwide oil consumption has to go down considerably