meanwhile, in fo4: "i'm gonna make you explode the second i step out of vault 111"

also fo4 did the most to squash god stats like agility

because it wasn't relying on some decades old notion of bad pnp design, holy fuck

if i could notice that before playing any ttrpg what's your excuse

"Maybe I’m just doing it wrong but I always felt like there’s no point in upgrading weapons in Fallout 4 unless you’re doing the best possible upgrades. Like why would I waste resources on the blue-powered receiver for +15 damage when I can just find a bit more junk and then make the green-powered advanced receiver for +30 damage"

because they're perk locked

like a fucking rpg

guys why should i buy this +1 sword when i could just wait until my ref gives me a +3 sword

plz rply

one of the ways you can tell nv players suck at fo4 is because they literally don't know what weapons do, the perks do, or how enemies behave

because in new vegas all you do is pick the highest damage/dps weapon you have ammo for and blast 'em and that works 99% of the time

this gets your face ripped off in fo4, where enemies have different weaknesses, weak points, attack patterns etc

it's why people die to sentry bots, assaultrons, different deathclaw variants, etc

nv has none of this. you hide behind a chunk of rock and pew pew until the bullet sponge is dead even if you have ap ammo

it's also why everyone hates cazadores: they fly around really fast and that's when you realize... all that "weapon variety" new vegas gives you?

literally just a buncha +/-1 modifiers. almost zero utility across new vegas' armoy

"Oh yeah I guess I didn't really think about stealth gameplay"

bruh lol

"The ammo types in NV was a nice idea, but I can’t say I ever really used them. Never seemed like a point"

it's because you could get through the game just fine with just surplus

"In Fallout 4 all pistols are chambered in 10mm"

this is such a weird way to say you didn't play fo4

there are no casinos in new vegas obv

"Your telling me obsidian made four Expansions for New Vegas. And no one thought "hey, what if used one of these expansions to explore an area under legion occupation and fleshout the faction with the least amount of content?""

the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear

i am very deep and smart

also you have fo3 the pitt

that dlc has better writing than all of new vegas too

although a buncha raiders knocking you out with fists and like a length of pipe when you're in power armor can be a little suss...

"Also on top of that how much more can the legion be explored? They're not actually Rome, they're the Huns."

they are not the huns

they are also not the romans they just wear funny costumes and say ave

bruh

you knew new vegas stans can't read

also let's be honest if we're talking about the most lorebreaking that's fallout 2, hands down

literally one game later and they couldn't get their shit together

no wonder they sold to bethesda

"I remember back in the day a friend complained about mama Murphy and the whole jet sight and magical bullshit.Fast forward to me years later i play fo2 and have magic Skype calls with the shaman."

... did you not play new vegas?

"My ass straight up forgot the Forecaster existed. He occupied zero space in my head."

hey real quick

it was written like ass. that's why you don't remember it

everyone complains about mothership zeta and mama murphy but damn at least they remember it

"I only remember him because one time he got me stuck in an endless dialogue loop with no exit.

Uhh, I mean NEW VEGAS IS PEAK AND PERFECT THERE IS LITERALLY NO BETTER GAME THAT EXISTS"

fo3 unmodded literally runs better than "stable modded" nv and it's 2026

"You know whats funny.Dude was a fo1/fo2 glazer but never played the games.He did the same thing with morrowind."

i believe this because i see these fuckers all the time

i also don't like morrowind but at least i understand why other people like morrowind

there are commendable bits to it

and big mushrooms 🍄

it is correct to kill vivec btw

"Plus, most people are NOT ready for a Deathclaw fight this early in the game. That suit is very likely to break during the fight, and is also likely the only reason, for most people at least, that the Deathclaw didn’t outright soft lock them at this moment entirely. It makes perfect sense when you look at it from the perspective of someone making a game and not just the critics who play it specifically to pick it apart."

the most sane comment i've read in this sub

fo5 should have ridable horses

"Procedes to FO76 where Appalachia looks almost intact"

only pre-reclamation day

i just wanna point out that classic fallout has xenomorphs

"Fallout 2 is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, half the random encounters are memes"

there are multiple videos on youtube with millions of views mad about fo4's ghoul kid in a fridge

meanwhile in fo2 you go back in time and break a water chip to make sure fo1 happens

"The problem is largely timeline-related, Fallout 1 is really early in the timeline and there are already proper settlements being built like Shady Sands. Fallout 4 is very late in the timeline and people are still living in highly impractical sheet metal death-by-heat-stroke boxes and wood shanties when they had literally about 100 years to figure something out"

fo1/2/nv have plot armor protags who murder all factions doing bad shit

east coast has supervillains fucking everything up

you also have the thing where the east coast got meganuked more than the west coast

new vegas also had house literally intercepting nukes which is why the strip even exists at all

it's almost like you don't think about lore or how things would play out at all 🤔

"why isn't the commonwealth totally recovered?!?!?!"

*institute literally kidnapping people and shitting out synths and super mutants*

it's a mystery bob

meanwhile the problems in the mojave are like "we have rifles and we can't shoot a bunch of losers armed with sticks"

best writing, s-tier

"X-01 PA as a whole is considered Lore Breaking"

lore knowledge is bad, but pa lore knowledge is the worst jankfest i ever saw

"X-01 is disappointing as it makes APA a prewar armor when Devs of Fallout 2 had it postwar according to Fallout Bible."

the fallout bible is not canon

imagine being beholden to a bunch of fucking forum posts made by a pack of assholes and an ex-dev
ask them if any super mutants have dicks for a Good Time

they were literally called mindless ghouls and zombies in fallout 1

moreover a recurring point in fo3 is that ghouls experience a lot of bigotry because people /assume/ they may go feral at any time

so... no

hey someone else got it! xD

i could be wrong because i'm tired now but i can't actually recall any non-feral ghoul in fo3 later turning feral just due to time or whatever

the sole exception has extenuating circumstances because it's the point lookout quest dealing with the krivbeknih, so it's not strictly a "normal radiation" thing, it's got that cosmic horror influence thing

this does happen in fo4's nuka-world with a whole group of ghouls tho. you also get some mystical elements there, where a ghoul gets what appears to be magical ghoul healing/resurrection powers

"It would work better if the pipe guns were a less nonsense design"

fo4 pipe guns are basically better in every way compared to real life zip/pipe guns made by random dipshits

"Can a Fallout lorebeard confirm whether the raiders have wasteland-melted brains and have lost a lot of their reasoning capacity, because I can’t think of other reasons for them to use pipe weapons over scavenging better guns."

they might not have access to better guns

i don't know why people don't understand this

not everyone walks around with what they want. it's an apocalyptic wasteland dude

on no account let anyone who loves new vegas touch fo5 guns

you're just gonna get a bunch of fucking garands and people will call it the best game

"Fallout modders on their way to make armor for the Minutemen based on every military on the planet and the Fallout universe except the Revolutionary War Minutemen"

in fairness the rw mm weren't that great

idea was good. execution left a lot to be desired

"This is more due to Fallout aesthetic being all over the place. It makes no sense for minutemen in 23rd century to have muskets and dusty trenchcoats with no body armor"

wait till i tell you about ncr rangers wearing gas masks and dusty trenchcoats and armor and favoring fucking revolvers in a fucking desert

the real reason the ncr is losing to the legion: the ncr just turning themselves into heat casualties

"Except China fired first according to the games."

i'm glad everyone downvoted this and they deleted their account lol

"Tim Cain said China launched the bombs."

tim cain is also not in control of fallout canon

somah in fo3 mothership zeta said it best when
honestly even the bos in 76 is... not great
shin was right at the end tho

"Did the bos actually engage in outright warfare with the enclave? I thought they were just subversive. I never beat F2 though I was just a kid that liked collecting guns from encounters."

the only time the bos wins in an outright war war is the east coast bos in fo3 against the enclave

note: have not seen show, have not played fo76 for like 3 years so if something changed there i dunno lol

also i have no idea if the show is canon or alt timeline or what

"Brotherhood technology, training and weaponry is entirely top notch."

new vegas literally shows you the quality of their training lol

granted it's just one bunker...

that said the ncr evidently uses non-powered/motorized scavenged power armor so

not sure what's up with that 🤷🏼

see it shows superman slow walking toward a minigun but actually what should happen is you get knocked down and you slide X tiles away

"Who bitches before confirming on the wiki anyway? "

fallout (fandom) wiki is bad, pass it on

"The games are filled with unreliable narrators that people somehow think only tell the truth. I think the worst one is the operation anchorage, which people seem to think is accurate to the events of the actual battle. Even tho there is a pre-war terminal entry describing the simulation as “divorced from reality” due to the copious amount of army propaganda in it."

america gud, china bad

DEMOCRACY IS NON-NEGOTIABLE

@worthlessbums
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes
You might find
You get a stick with a nail in it.
@RogerBW i do feel like fallout does underestiamte what one can do with barb wire tho...