also let's just be clear the legion, as a faction, is incredibly plot armored

you're not gonna send a bunch of SUPER PHYSICALLY CONDITIONED DUDES WITH STICKS AND SPORTS GEAR to charge even ww1 level infantry lines and win

they'd get slaughtered

what's extra funny is that you COULD have made that work by just actually using fallout lore: they take a buncha chems and now they're temporarily fiend/super soldiers

but no, actually their head dipshit leader doesn't let them take any drugs except some healing powder which is Definitely Not Drugs

so we are left to believe, in this absolutely s-tier writing. that some losers with pointy sticks are regularly trouncing dudes in actual armor with rifles

alright

and they're doing this in the mojave

the place that is flat as fuck, is a goddamn desert so it has good visibility in most areas

these losers are winning? really?

and then you pitch your command tent, housing your cult of personality supreme leader, right in artillery range

and the ncr doesn't vaporize you? lol lmao

militarily nothing in new vegas makes any goddamn sense, you can masturbate about "real world guns" all you want

it's a clusterfuck of stanning for a slaver army with literal plot armor to even exist as written

don't even get me started on their brilliant total war tactics

whoever wrote that has never even cracked a military text in his goddamn life

shoutout to the new vegas "lore nerds" who try to say that in-game better legion units use firearms

cool dude. that's not lore. that's just gameplay so that the ncr patrols don't just fold them every time in the actual game

there's also this constant undercurrent of "well there was SUPPOSED to be a legion town! we'd get more lore!"

it doesn't matter. new vegas loves to info dump you in dialogue so we know how they work in broad strokes unless the cut town was gonna contradict hundreds of jacked up fuck ass legion lines bragging about all the fucked shit they do

this is also a game that unironically used the "fascists made the trains run on time" argument with the whole "legion has safer roads" thing

so get fucked

yes it's one dialogue line from cass

and every fuckass new vegas stan brings it up

wonder why

anyway i haven't seen the show

curious if the reason so many new vegas stans hate it is because it makes it clear the legion are, you know, fucking evil

all i know from etsy candles is that people wanna fuck a ghoul

i've seen enough deathclaw and assaultron porn floating out there this doesn't even faze me anymore

"I find it kind of bizarre that FNV has more unique weapons with the DLCs(not counting GUNRUNNERS) than Fallout 4 has of base weapons without the dlcs."

fallout 4 has weapon mods and legendary effects

there are like nine billion more weapon combinations than in nv and i can make better versions of nv weapons

i don't care if the weapon is unique and in a cave or something i should be able to suppress most guns

also energy weapons in every goddamn fallout game pre 4 were weird as hell

here, invest in energy weapons even tho you don't have any yet, and when you do get them they'll underperform like shit until you get higher skill

wow. such good mechanics

also fo4 did the most to squash god stats like agility

because it wasn't relying on some decades old notion of bad pnp design, holy fuck

if i could notice that before playing any ttrpg what's your excuse

"Maybe I’m just doing it wrong but I always felt like there’s no point in upgrading weapons in Fallout 4 unless you’re doing the best possible upgrades. Like why would I waste resources on the blue-powered receiver for +15 damage when I can just find a bit more junk and then make the green-powered advanced receiver for +30 damage"

because they're perk locked

like a fucking rpg

guys why should i buy this +1 sword when i could just wait until my ref gives me a +3 sword

plz rply

one of the ways you can tell nv players suck at fo4 is because they literally don't know what weapons do, the perks do, or how enemies behave

because in new vegas all you do is pick the highest damage/dps weapon you have ammo for and blast 'em and that works 99% of the time

this gets your face ripped off in fo4, where enemies have different weaknesses, weak points, attack patterns etc

it's why people die to sentry bots, assaultrons, different deathclaw variants, etc

nv has none of this. you hide behind a chunk of rock and pew pew until the bullet sponge is dead even if you have ap ammo

it's also why everyone hates cazadores: they fly around really fast and that's when you realize... all that "weapon variety" new vegas gives you?

literally just a buncha +/-1 modifiers. almost zero utility across new vegas' armoy

"Oh yeah I guess I didn't really think about stealth gameplay"

bruh lol

"The ammo types in NV was a nice idea, but I can’t say I ever really used them. Never seemed like a point"

it's because you could get through the game just fine with just surplus

"In Fallout 4 all pistols are chambered in 10mm"

this is such a weird way to say you didn't play fo4

"Your telling me obsidian made four Expansions for New Vegas. And no one thought "hey, what if used one of these expansions to explore an area under legion occupation and fleshout the faction with the least amount of content?""

the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear

i am very deep and smart

also you have fo3 the pitt

that dlc has better writing than all of new vegas too

"Also on top of that how much more can the legion be explored? They're not actually Rome, they're the Huns."

they are not the huns

they are also not the romans they just wear funny costumes and say ave

bruh

you knew new vegas stans can't read

literally one game later and they couldn't get their shit together

no wonder they sold to bethesda

"I remember back in the day a friend complained about mama Murphy and the whole jet sight and magical bullshit.Fast forward to me years later i play fo2 and have magic Skype calls with the shaman."

... did you not play new vegas?