new vegas has an incredibly toxic and vocal online minority

they bomb every poll, drive by patrolling the mojave memes, and don't actually play the game

they're weird little guys

i still remember being the only guy who liked new vegas AT ALL in my wow guild at launch. most people fucking left and never looked back till fo4

literally fo3 and 4 buoy the franchise. it's not new vegas. even 76 has better rep (these days)

i cannot express to you enough how offline no one fucking knows what new vegas is

it's also funny because even tho nv numbers are so low, they're literally buoyed by fallout 3 due to tale of two wastelands

people are logging hours on new vegas... to play fallout 3

given the influx of new people from the show the games that got the most bump? 4 and 76

because of course

like 90% of forums and youtube videos will tell you 4 and 76 are trash and you need to play your lord and savior, new vegas

and everyone's on 4 and 76

(and skyrim lol lmao)

also that's the other thing: skyrim is its own thing

your average rando out in the world is gonna know what skyrim is, and to a lesser extent tes, before fallout, and then way at the bottom new vegas

shit's not even close

fallout 76, the game that a lot of terminally online people will call the worst (modern) fallout game, sold more than new vegas

have fun knowing that

new vegas has had years of heavy mod support, full steam internet meme backing, a rabid ass fanbase churning out videos and posts and articles and comments about how it's the best rpg in the world... and they can't even fucking beat fallout 3
new vegas is the gamestop of fallout games
the only reason new vegas isn't the worst mainline fallout game is because fallout 2 exists

mass effect 1 came out in 2007 bruh, how are you even gonna glaze this game so hard

even legendary edition sold gangbusters (no hard numbers)

even the game with choose your color starkid does better than you

"Compared to how stupid it is that Father leaves the player character full inheritance of the Institute, Caesar's "special treatment" of making you his trusted frumentarius just because you're a guy who can get shit done is stellar writing"

in new vegas the writing is so Tops they reset your karma so you can keep playing their quests as written

the courier could vaporize 99% of the legion in the mojave and somehow leave a casino and get a clean slate

new vegas: where your decisions matter

real quick which was your favorite new vegas ending:

1) autocracy
2) autocracy
3) autocracy
4) flawed republic which the game frames as just as bad as autocracy and slavery because taxes

notably, one of the more common complaints in fallout 4? is that you get locked out of major factions when you start making big moves against them

which is funny, because in skyrim one of the major complaints is you could just become king of almost all the factions regardless of what their beliefs are 🤷🏼

if only they did the new vegas thing, like letting you assassinate major brotherhood figures then give you a reputation wipe For Reasons to let you become elder even though everyone in the bos hates you

like Real Good Writing

it's almost like your complaints are invalid and you like the cowboy female slavery game for other reasons

i think one of my favorite complaints about fo4 is that the railroad isn't gonna make a good government

because that's new vegas brain

only evaluating a faction you side with purely based on what kind of government they'd create

even though the railroad is not trying to create a government

anyway, obviously this is why the followers of the apocalypse are bad and unethical: what kind of government would those anarchists make??!?!?

also let's just be clear the legion, as a faction, is incredibly plot armored

you're not gonna send a bunch of SUPER PHYSICALLY CONDITIONED DUDES WITH STICKS AND SPORTS GEAR to charge even ww1 level infantry lines and win

they'd get slaughtered

what's extra funny is that you COULD have made that work by just actually using fallout lore: they take a buncha chems and now they're temporarily fiend/super soldiers

but no, actually their head dipshit leader doesn't let them take any drugs except some healing powder which is Definitely Not Drugs

so we are left to believe, in this absolutely s-tier writing. that some losers with pointy sticks are regularly trouncing dudes in actual armor with rifles

alright

and they're doing this in the mojave

the place that is flat as fuck, is a goddamn desert so it has good visibility in most areas

these losers are winning? really?

and then you pitch your command tent, housing your cult of personality supreme leader, right in artillery range

and the ncr doesn't vaporize you? lol lmao

if the entirety of fallout 4 was just the minutemen shooting down the prydwen that alone would be superior writing

militarily nothing in new vegas makes any goddamn sense, you can masturbate about "real world guns" all you want

it's a clusterfuck of stanning for a slaver army with literal plot armor to even exist as written

don't even get me started on their brilliant total war tactics

whoever wrote that has never even cracked a military text in his goddamn life

shoutout to the new vegas "lore nerds" who try to say that in-game better legion units use firearms

cool dude. that's not lore. that's just gameplay so that the ncr patrols don't just fold them every time in the actual game

there's also this constant undercurrent of "well there was SUPPOSED to be a legion town! we'd get more lore!"

it doesn't matter. new vegas loves to info dump you in dialogue so we know how they work in broad strokes unless the cut town was gonna contradict hundreds of jacked up fuck ass legion lines bragging about all the fucked shit they do

this is also a game that unironically used the "fascists made the trains run on time" argument with the whole "legion has safer roads" thing

so get fucked

yes it's one dialogue line from cass

and every fuckass new vegas stan brings it up

wonder why

honestly fo4's biggest problem was it assumed gamers were smart but unless you force feed fallout players exactly what you mean they come away thinking the fascists are the good guys, so

anyway i haven't seen the show

curious if the reason so many new vegas stans hate it is because it makes it clear the legion are, you know, fucking evil

all i know from etsy candles is that people wanna fuck a ghoul

i've seen enough deathclaw and assaultron porn floating out there this doesn't even faze me anymore

let's be honest we all wanted gob and nova to shack up
have i mentioned recently that fo4 is the best fallout game
come back to my <shack> we can <psycho and chill>

"I find it kind of bizarre that FNV has more unique weapons with the DLCs(not counting GUNRUNNERS) than Fallout 4 has of base weapons without the dlcs."

fallout 4 has weapon mods and legendary effects

there are like nine billion more weapon combinations than in nv and i can make better versions of nv weapons

i don't care if the weapon is unique and in a cave or something i should be able to suppress most guns

fallout 4 also has an objectively better build system but you all freak because you're missing your precious 1-100 skills

also energy weapons in every goddamn fallout game pre 4 were weird as hell

here, invest in energy weapons even tho you don't have any yet, and when you do get them they'll underperform like shit until you get higher skill

wow. such good mechanics

meanwhile, in fo4: "i'm gonna make you explode the second i step out of vault 111"

also fo4 did the most to squash god stats like agility

because it wasn't relying on some decades old notion of bad pnp design, holy fuck

if i could notice that before playing any ttrpg what's your excuse

"Maybe I’m just doing it wrong but I always felt like there’s no point in upgrading weapons in Fallout 4 unless you’re doing the best possible upgrades. Like why would I waste resources on the blue-powered receiver for +15 damage when I can just find a bit more junk and then make the green-powered advanced receiver for +30 damage"

because they're perk locked

like a fucking rpg

guys why should i buy this +1 sword when i could just wait until my ref gives me a +3 sword

plz rply

one of the ways you can tell nv players suck at fo4 is because they literally don't know what weapons do, the perks do, or how enemies behave

because in new vegas all you do is pick the highest damage/dps weapon you have ammo for and blast 'em and that works 99% of the time

this gets your face ripped off in fo4, where enemies have different weaknesses, weak points, attack patterns etc

it's why people die to sentry bots, assaultrons, different deathclaw variants, etc

nv has none of this. you hide behind a chunk of rock and pew pew until the bullet sponge is dead even if you have ap ammo

it's also why everyone hates cazadores: they fly around really fast and that's when you realize... all that "weapon variety" new vegas gives you?

literally just a buncha +/-1 modifiers. almost zero utility across new vegas' armoy

"Oh yeah I guess I didn't really think about stealth gameplay"

bruh lol

"The ammo types in NV was a nice idea, but I can’t say I ever really used them. Never seemed like a point"

it's because you could get through the game just fine with just surplus

"In Fallout 4 all pistols are chambered in 10mm"

this is such a weird way to say you didn't play fo4

there are no casinos in new vegas obv

"Your telling me obsidian made four Expansions for New Vegas. And no one thought "hey, what if used one of these expansions to explore an area under legion occupation and fleshout the faction with the least amount of content?""

the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear the bull the bear

i am very deep and smart

also you have fo3 the pitt

that dlc has better writing than all of new vegas too

although a buncha raiders knocking you out with fists and like a length of pipe when you're in power armor can be a little suss...

"Also on top of that how much more can the legion be explored? They're not actually Rome, they're the Huns."

they are not the huns

they are also not the romans they just wear funny costumes and say ave

bruh

you knew new vegas stans can't read

also let's be honest if we're talking about the most lorebreaking that's fallout 2, hands down

literally one game later and they couldn't get their shit together

no wonder they sold to bethesda

"I remember back in the day a friend complained about mama Murphy and the whole jet sight and magical bullshit.Fast forward to me years later i play fo2 and have magic Skype calls with the shaman."

... did you not play new vegas?

"My ass straight up forgot the Forecaster existed. He occupied zero space in my head."

hey real quick

it was written like ass. that's why you don't remember it

everyone complains about mothership zeta and mama murphy but damn at least they remember it

"I only remember him because one time he got me stuck in an endless dialogue loop with no exit.

Uhh, I mean NEW VEGAS IS PEAK AND PERFECT THERE IS LITERALLY NO BETTER GAME THAT EXISTS"

fo3 unmodded literally runs better than "stable modded" nv and it's 2026

"You know whats funny.Dude was a fo1/fo2 glazer but never played the games.He did the same thing with morrowind."

i believe this because i see these fuckers all the time

@worthlessbums ...I didn't know people struggled with fo4's combat like... at all...

@psilocervine a constant complaint from a certain segment of people is that fo4 enemies are too bullet spongey

it's because they have zero tactics

no one complains about bullet sponge new vegas enemies even when you're reloading for a fourth time against a fucking centurion

@worthlessbums that is just... so wild to me. maybe it's because I've played so many shooters my whole life or I bother to consider how builds work and their efficacy?