EDIT: This might be a better idea. https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116309403462425727

FUCK IT, let's just fucking fork OpenSolaris's last code. Best way to get away from AI/LLMs.

It's already written for us, it's a good OS and kernel and honestly it's an awesome relic of computing.

cc: @thing

@thing or something like that, forking another OS without any AI stuff is the best option instead of writing our own from scratch. That would take years. Sure, both options are fun but one is less painful from my experience.

Doesn't have to be OpenSolaris but it's one of the best options we have. I don't exactly want to pull an EVi on FreeBSD or any of the others currently.

@thing @mrmasterkeyboard

Wait, wait… there are still other BSD things right? I've never used any of them but I know there's a handful. And if you're gonna fork a kernel, why not just fork Linux itself from a while ago or something?

@[email protected] @mrmasterkeyboard the bsd's exchange code quite often.
@[email protected] @mrmasterkeyboard also, he's not just forking a kernel; he's forking a whole operating system. kernel space AND user space.
@thing @cloudskater Honestly, userspace is just as susceptible to AI from upstreams. We'd have to rip that out and make our own maybe unless we're willing to take a risk there.

@thing @mrmasterkeyboard

You should not have to dig this hard to get something that's for sure not tainted by AI. Devs shouldn't be so willing to use it. It's insane.

Sorry I keep repeating the same point but like, it makes. no. FUCKING. SENSE. AUGH ACK- sorry, hairball.

@cloudskater @thing This is why I fucking hate my life and the entire world right now.

Fuck everything.

I SHOULD BE WORRYING IF MY HARDWARE DIES NOT IF THE PROJECT IS FUCKING THE PLANET OVER-

@cloudskater @thing Making our own kernel and creating an OS on top of it either using projects that are committed to not using AI or allowing it outright or writing our own utils and apps on it is probably our best option right now because we can design things to best fit what people need and also know how it all works instead of being stuck with a codebase we potentially can't understand fast enough.

@cloudskater @thing You know what, fuck it. I'm coming out of my emotional spiral. I've got motivation, I've got fury, I've got destruction in me.

We need to do something. I don't care how hopeless this shit is, we need to fabricate some hope to make real hope. We need to do something, create our way out.

@cloudskater @thing I’ll probably get started on planning and communication soon.

I don’t know where I’d put communication.

Current options:
1. IRC (somehow but that’d mean I’d run two channels on OFTC)
2. Matrix (but not everyone likes to use it)
3. (If it really had to come to it) Fluxer

@mrmasterkeyboard about planning, would you rather make a Linux/BSD "clone", like POSIX-compliant, or would you like to experiment a bit more, like being to plan9 what plan9 was to unix. One could still add posix layer on top for apps, but I feel like there is so much space to explore when it comes to interop and security/isolation, I just don't have a clear picture about it

@lixou I’d definitely try to be experimental in that regard. I really do like how BSD works in general.

For the longest time, I’ve had an idea to make a BSD-like system with a microkernel but not to be a straight clone of course. Definitely separate out a bit.

@mrmasterkeyboard That's what I wanted to hear! nice 
@lixou honestly, I’m kinda tempted to repurpose one of my old Codeberg orgs right now to host this whole project and idea.
@lixou will repurpose this old project org of mine that I never officially started for this I guess: https://codeberg.org/ProjectAnchorage
Project Anchorage

People who create whatever we want and collaborate whenever we want.

Codeberg.org
@mrmasterkeyboard @lixou do you happen to know if theres a no-AI fork of curl you could use for your binutils?
@mrmasterkeyboard @lixou oh...you didn't know........................................................................................................................................yeah so i use wget now :3