EDIT: This might be a better idea. https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116309403462425727
FUCK IT, let's just fucking fork OpenSolaris's last code. Best way to get away from AI/LLMs.
It's already written for us, it's a good OS and kernel and honestly it's an awesome relic of computing.
cc: @thing
@thing or something like that, forking another OS without any AI stuff is the best option instead of writing our own from scratch. That would take years. Sure, both options are fun but one is less painful from my experience.
Doesn't have to be OpenSolaris but it's one of the best options we have. I don't exactly want to pull an EVi on FreeBSD or any of the others currently.
Wait, wait… there are still other BSD things right? I've never used any of them but I know there's a handful. And if you're gonna fork a kernel, why not just fork Linux itself from a while ago or something?
You should not have to dig this hard to get something that's for sure not tainted by AI. Devs shouldn't be so willing to use it. It's insane.
Sorry I keep repeating the same point but like, it makes. no. FUCKING. SENSE. AUGH ACK- sorry, hairball.
@cloudskater @thing This is why I fucking hate my life and the entire world right now.
Fuck everything.
I SHOULD BE WORRYING IF MY HARDWARE DIES NOT IF THE PROJECT IS FUCKING THE PLANET OVER-
@cloudskater @thing You know what, fuck it. I'm coming out of my emotional spiral. I've got motivation, I've got fury, I've got destruction in me.
We need to do something. I don't care how hopeless this shit is, we need to fabricate some hope to make real hope. We need to do something, create our way out.
@cloudskater @thing I’ll probably get started on planning and communication soon.
I don’t know where I’d put communication.
Current options:
1. IRC (somehow but that’d mean I’d run two channels on OFTC)
2. Matrix (but not everyone likes to use it)
3. (If it really had to come to it) Fluxer
Ooo!!! I got something for you!! Spacebar.chat is a fucking great open source re-implimintation of Discord that works really well already! I talked to the devs and they're opposed to AI as well so no issues there. I think I suggested it for Starlight's No-AI list, it just hasn't been added yet.
I've been trying so hard to get more people over there, it kicks ass.
Motherfucker, you make a LibraPay or whateverthefuck its called right now. Idc if it's not even started yet, give me something good to support and a reason to finally use LibraryPayPal or whatever it's called I'm too lazy to open a new tab rn
@lixou I’d definitely try to be experimental in that regard. I really do like how BSD works in general.
For the longest time, I’ve had an idea to make a BSD-like system with a microkernel but not to be a straight clone of course. Definitely separate out a bit.
https://github.com/curl/curl/commit/21fc17b265ca32c8a5a768dc7cd730754a104740
FUCKING CURL. WHAT THE FUCK.
Honestly, I don't trust using any other BSD's let alone forking them. (considering they take code from one another) Linux is also just asking to die if you fork that. It's GB in size, plus we wouldn't have the same amount of people maintaining.
@hazel @thing Yeah but Linux is millions of lines with thousands of contributors and maintainers... it's not viable at all unless we somehow group a bunch of Linux contributors or something. Even then, we don't entirely know if AI code slipped in at some point into Linux. Best bet would be 2024 as that when AI started becoming more coherent in code.
That's why elsewhere in this thread, I proposed making our own kernel and OS with our own software or projects that are against AI code.
New development policy: code generated by a large language model or similar technology (e.g. ChatGPT, GitHub Copilot) is presumed to be tainted (i.e. of unclear copyright, not fitting NetBSD's licensing goals) and cannot be committed to NetBSD. https://www.NetBSD.org/developers/commit-guidelines.html
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