Apple Should Set and Enforce Some Basic Standards for Custom Video Players on tvOS

Link to: https://daringfireball.net/2024/03/quickly_toggling_closed_captions_on_apple_tv

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@daringfireball “must support the platform conventions for fast-forwarding and rewinding using the Apple TV remote control”

Please heavens yes. 🙏

And temporary captions on -10s.

@daringfireball Britbox @BritBox_US ignores AirPods pause/play. And while you’re busy adhering to standards, implement downloading for offline play too, Britbox.
@daringfireball They absolutely should. I'm afraid the argument against it is that then App Store Review would have to test it, and they don't want the burden of doing so.
@daringfireball While we’re at it, the horizontal “scroll lock” style content navigation is awful too.

@daringfireball I don’t get how YouTube gets away shipping an app without PLAY/PAUSE button working. Need to push the middle button to resume.

Peacock is the worse. I’ll pause a video, go off to do something and hear my movie resume 10 minutes later from across the house.

@daringfireball tvOS should have been like CarPlay. You’re literally messing up with people’s safety in terms of CarPlay. tvOS custom players could be a primary reason for many divorces! 😛
@daringfireball Also of note is that Siri’s “subtitles on/off” doesn’t work anymore on Netflix either on the AppleTV. A fucking annoying regression.

@daringfireball the latest crap update from Kayo (an Australian sports service) finally switched to something resembling the system player, but when paused it shows an ad after a couple of seconds.

So fast forward and rewind now work, but when I try to use the “rest finger on the circle to seek” remote gesture it covers that with the ad - dismissing the ad is done with the play button, so it resumes to wherever the seek finished underneath the ad.

Reminds me of one of the main benefits of adopting native HTML 5 video instead of Flash: native, standardized UI provided by the OS. I was working on a video platform during the iPad launch and it was so good not to have to design every single aspect and state of a video player, and have something that performs super nicely, crafted by true experts.
@daringfireball I just noticed that Disney+ has a similar problem. Not sure when it started, but I just tried to skip back to catch some dialogue, and it popped up a timeine instead of just rewinding 10s. Grr. @gruber

@daringfireball @gruber Oh! It’s also helpfully adding subtitles (turned off) over (and duplicating) titles on screen. (The Bourne Supremacy, fwiw)

Who is designing the UIs?