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Yehuda TurtleIsland.social

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Thinking about my 18 yo grandson. Has anyone out there registered for the #Draft yet? Care to share your experiences and knowledge?

Almost all male U.S. citizens and male immigrants living in the U.S. (documented or undocumented) are required by law to register with the Selective Service if they are aged 18 through 25. Registration is mandatory, but there is currently no active draft. Failure to register can lead to fines, prison, and loss of federal benefits.
#IranWar #SelectiveService

Yehuda TurtleIsland.social 3d ago

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Failure to register for Selective Service is a federal felony for men aged 18–25 in the U.S., punishable by up to 5 years in prison and $250,000 in fines. Non-registrants face lifelong penalties, including ineligibility for federal/state jobs, student loans, federal job training, and citizenship for immigrants.

Yehuda TurtleIsland.social 3d ago

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Key Consequences of Not Registering:

Federal/State Benefits Loss: Ineligibility for federal student aid (FAFSA), student loans, and federal job training programs.

Employment Restrictions: Ineligible for employment with federal executive agencies and many state jobs.

Citizenship Penalty: Immigrant men who failed to register before age 26 may be denied U.S. citizenship.

Driver’s License: Up to 40 states/territories may deny driver's licenses to non-registrants.

Corvid Crone 3d ago

In the seventies, my dad had to register, but my grandfather was a registered conscience objector from WWII, and helped my dad draft his CO letter, so it was ready if he ever needed it. Vietnam ended right before my dad's number would have been called, but he was prepared to fight the draft on the basis of familial history of pacifism and total objection to all war.

Note: getting registered as a CO does not necessarily mean you can never get called into service. My grandfather spent WWII as a hospital orderly, emptying bed pans.

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@CorvidCrone @Yehuda That's 2 diff kinds of CO now 1-A-O is noncombatant service, 1-O is full discharge

@Yehuda I registered for the selective service because I'm amab, but I'm not going to serve. I am unfit because of my disability and because I'm trans

Even if I were drafted, I might just fight for the enemy

@burnoutqueen @Yehuda im fr shooting my commanding officer before im shooting anyone else

@Yehuda
I don't know ANYONE who has registered for the draft.

Yehuda TurtleIsland.social 3d ago

@Quasit Wow, I'm so surprised. Seems like the penalties are very severe:

Failure to register for Selective Service is a federal felony for men aged 18–25 in the U.S., punishable by up to 5 years in prison and $250,000 in fines. Non-registrants face lifelong penalties, including ineligibility for federal/state jobs, student loans, federal job training, and citizenship for immigrants. 😬

@Yehuda
I guess, but at the same time there's no question that compliance is extremely low. That's why the government recently passed a bill allowing them to get all that data from other sources. So when the draft does come back, they can just swoop down and arrest every potential stormtrooper and get them right into uniform!

@Yehuda I was super concerned with the draft being draft age, shortly after 9/11. If your grandson has concerns about being drafted; my understanding from what I researched back then is that conscientious objectors status is a real legal thing, but that its best to go ahead and start building a portfolio to support your case for it BEFORE the draft is actually triggered. AS conscientious objectors must still register and must be able to demonstrate a compelling active history opposing war/violence when the draft comes for them.

Yehuda TurtleIsland.social 3d ago

@trashheap Back in the day I was registered and classified 1A, but fortunately the Vietnam War ended before they could whisk me off. I was prepared to head to Canada though.

BunNICKula🇨🇦3d ago

@Yehuda
I suspect our southern border may be welcoming another generation of young Americans.

@Yehuda both my sons were born in the US. I'm Canadian, their dad is from NZ.
We left the USA long before either of them turned 18. However, turns out that male citizens living anywhere in the world must register. Oooops, we broke the law. 🫣
They both renounced their US citizenship after they turned 18, when the fee was $2350. Ouch! But worth it for them.

Yehuda TurtleIsland.social 3d ago

@Stevie63 Yeah, I haven't seen a US war in my lifetime yet that was worth dying for...

Robbie 👾3d ago

@Yehuda I have a Selective Service Number, but it has never been a bad thing. I was worried about the wars in the Middle East, but I didn’t even get stationed there when I enlisted. I 100% advise against enlisting at all. Merely due to the abusive, toxic culture that most members partake in (most people proud of their service these days are some garden variety of christo-fascist). Not a healthy place for any human mind.
It was important for me to have during my university years, obviously.
Anyway, I’m still kind of worried about being drafted because I can serve them in some way. They have my intelligence scores, and I am able-bodied due to my service records.

Yehuda TurtleIsland.social 3d ago

@robbienorlyn Doesn't enlistment satisfy draft obligations?

Robbie 👾3d ago

@Yehuda It’s entirely possible for me to be called back into service. I don’t think it probable unless things go really sideways.

@Yehuda I have a selective service number even though I am legally disabled right now. I had to get one to get my benefits ironically enough. I don’t really think about it as I know because of my medical problems I would never be drafted unless they wanted someone who would become deeply unstable during service. I do worry a tiny bit lately though but given my medical problems it makes me less worried.

There will probably never be a draft as the volunteer service is more than enough. But that could change, and I can’t say for certain any of that would matter to the president if he wanted his way either. But if there was one it would be very bad.

Yehuda TurtleIsland.social 3d ago

@gavi I would think disability would be a deferment for sure, but of course if this war stuff goes fully global, all bets are off. I trust #Felon47 less than zero.

@Yehuda if they want someone hallucinating during a war then good luck is all I’ll say

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@gavi @Yehuda You can put together a conscientious-objector packet just in case, https://centeronconscience.org

Center on Conscience & War

CCW advocates for the rights of conscience, opposes military conscription, and serves all conscientious objectors to war, including military members.

Center on Conscience & War

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@gavi @Yehuda And so can yr grandson when he turns 18

Dan Shuman 3d ago

@Yehuda That will get some gen z men to flip. If they can even vote since the regime is trying to do away with mail in ballots.

Lightfighter 3d ago

@Yehuda I never registered. They mailed my notice to me about 6 months after I turned 18. My address at the time was at the 82nd Airborne, Fort Bragg, NC.

Yehuda TurtleIsland.social 3d ago

@Lightfighter That's wild!

Nicks World 2d ago

@Yehuda I registered, even though I'm blind and most likely would not be drafted. It's had no effect on me personally, and I hope it doesn't for your grandson, however, he must do it and its not hard to do.