ghodawalaamanTrust me bro!
cub Gucci
Captain_FaradayHow is codeberg?
Susaga
communismIt’s great. I also self-host my own Forgejo (that’s the software Codeberg runs on) instance for private repos, to avoid using up space on Codeberg’s servers.
Main problem is the lack of federation, leading to splintering across Codeberg/GitLab/sourcehut/self-hosted forges. I know there’s Radicle, and Forgejo is working on ActivityPub integration, but it’s slow-moving to get what should be inherently federated by design (git) to actually be federated. In practice you need accounts on a dozen different websites if you want to regularly contribute to foss.
I’m torn between wanting to opt-out because it’s morally correct, or remaining opted-in so I can poison AI models with my terrible code.
so I can poison AI models with my terrible code.
Don’t forget to teach it obscenities and yell at it whenever it fucks something up!
Nah, guarantee the models have rules built in to deal with obvious stuff like that.
You need to be more subtle. Give them information that is slightly wrong.
Perhaps by generating a bunch of complex copilot code to upload. It’s easy to mass produce and would look plausibly functional.
Just need to use less obvious insults, a la, “your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries”
Still poisons the model with something an end user won’t like, but isn’t easy enough to train out
Artisanal crap code.
bufalo1973Prompt for another AI: “write an example of code that looks correct but doesn’t work”
Step 2; upload the resulting code to GitHub.
I love the idea of giving CoPilot Torrettes.1
Cevilia (they/she/…)I signed up to github purely to opt in and upload terrible python code.
If they desperately want to train the idiot machine on my awful self-taught code, that’s on them.
Por qué no los dos?
Opt out on one account, use another as poison. If you’re gonna do this, I’d say move all your code to a new account and use the older account to poison - that way they can’t filter the bad out by account age.
lime!fun fact, if you’ve ever accidentally clicked the “enable” button on copilot because you’re a dumbass who can’t read, you get a shitton of more settings, most of which are locked to “enabled”.
Even more fun fact, if you never clicked the “enable” button on Copilot, most of those settings are locked to “enabled” anyway.
Yes I just found that this morning. Time to seriously look at the GitHub alternatives.
Also another setting under CoPilot>Coding Agent - turn off for All Repositories - mine was set to On.
Even with that setting on, nothing would be done unless you explicitly assign a Github task to Copilot. Even then, the worst thing that would happen is you’d get a pull request at some point if you somehow accidentally assigned a task to Copilot.
Got it. I didn’t read too far in it. I saw the option to turn something copilot-related off, so I took it!
Thanks for providing an explanation.
I hear good things about Codeberg
…and they want to train the idiot machine on this dumbass’ terrible self-taught python code.
Not to be too snarky, but was there ever an assumption that stuff you put in wasn’t being used to train it? Safe to assume that any online service you’re using is making use of the data you’re giving it.
If you’re a business with a contract with them it should state that they won’t use your data to train their models.
If you’re using the free service then you’re right that it’s safe to assume that your data was already being used.
business with a contract
I always wonder at this and have cautioned my managers repeatedly. Yes, we have a contract, but they have a literal army of lawyers and we have less (one lawyer one retainer for hourly work or a small grouping focused on taxes and employment law). As if our ownership won’t bend over backwards to avoid suing a large company like Google, AWS, Microsoft, or Oracle. (Maybe OpenAI and Anthropic are sue-able by a $100 million corp?)
As proof I offer the lawsuits between businesses that have proceeded far enough the general public has heard about them. Not a specific one, just all of them.
You have to trust the contract.
If you use Microsoft 365 or Google Workspace etc then they already have all your data anyway. Most businesses have to trust other companies and the contract at some point.
The only other option is to use Open Source self hosted everything which is beyond most people’s ability.
There are more options than the two you mentioned. Listing a few as more people should remember them. I did get a bit off topic…
Got this email last night and felt validated for never uploading any code to GitHub because I don’t trust Microsoft. lol
I don’t have any big coding projects, but I self-host a ForgeJo server in my mini rack at home behind a Twingate VPN.
FYI: it is not “ForgeJo”
Forgejo is derived from Esperanto where the “ejo” suffix means “place”. The J is pronounced like y is in English.
It’s “forge-ejo” not “forge-joe”
No, it’s pronounced ForJayHo.
bruce965Link for opting out: github.com/settings/copilot/features
In the “Privacy” section, set “Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training” to “Disabled”.
t҉̠̙ǵ̣̞̄ͪ͜x̸̱͚̳ͫ͐̑̈ͯͣ̚n̒͌҉͉̦̜̝ͅI turned it off ages ago, and if you already had it off, it’s staying off. (for now at least)
You better check again, mine got switched back on.
I check it every day before I use CoPilot 😁
xthexderIt seems to be off by default if you’ve already opted out of Copilot entirely. Definitely still a reminder I should set up my own git though
I run mine on a raspberry pi zero - wasn’t terrible to set up.
If you’re still om github, you’re kinda doing for it.
AeriAs soon as Microslop got involved I pulled all my repos and left.
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