Friedrich
4am ❧RE: https://mastodon.social/@MozillaAI/116279201448628866
All we wanted was a browser. All you had to do was build a browser. You had one job.
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FoolishOwl@a2_4am It's been effectively an inefficient host for virtual machines for years now.
Lykso@foolishowl @a2_4am I honestly think we should re-do the Web as this. It would be a lot simpler.
Growlph Ibex@a2_4am ffs Mozilla what are you DOING?
Thomas Arildsen@a2_4am kind of like that Moltbook atrocity?
Alex Block 🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦
milagemayvaryChromium which Vivaldi is based off of, has its own challenges.
Something tells me LLM generated code is making its way into Vivaldi.
https://github.com/chromium/chromium/tree/aab503953a7f271aad675ef8a38f3108d9c2a0f0/.agents
https://github.com/chromium/chromium/tree/aab503953a7f271aad675ef8a38f3108d9c2a0f0/.gemini
https://github.com/chromium/chromium/tree/aab503953a7f271aad675ef8a38f3108d9c2a0f0/.claude
@milagemayvary Back to #Lynx then I guess, lol!
Lynx is alright.
This codeberg repository contains a list of Free/OSS software that contains signs of slop with added alternatives.
Tired Sponge@AlexBlock @milagemayvary Those were the days! Loved that browser.
Tock@milagemayvary @AlexBlock That's something they need to address. Chromium being upstream, they can't block all of it. And honestly, AI is AT WAR with the Open Web.
I use Vivaldi for their choice of no LLMs running in the browser. But that is not an endorsement out of me. https://vivaldi.com/blog/keep-exploring/
Again, my hopes lie with Servo.
davidhanzlik"Stack Overflow's corpus genuinely did nourish the LLMs. The question is whether the next generation builds something sustainable or just moves on to the next host.
Jokes aside..."
Peter Wilson of Mozilla everybody, he is a laugh a minute... 😮💨
Robin Adams@davidhanzlik @a2_4am I know. He lays out one of the main reasons people hate LLMs, and calls it "poetry" and a "joke". What was he think....
...ohhhhhh. He got an LLM to write this, didn't he?
@a2_4am Things I never thought I'd say a couple of years ago.
#FuckMozilla, goodbye Firefox, and viva Vivaldi. (And Waterfox until Servo is mature enough for daily use.)
@milagemayvary Thanks for that.
Replied in that thread, in short: praise for no LLM bundled, AI slop code is a fight, and my hope is Servo keeps the fight alive that Firefox started.
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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.@BoydStephenSmithJr @a2_4am I am saying that we need a browser that is a product paid for directly by its users.
If #Mozzila offered a version of #Firefox that respected privacy and net neutrality and shunned AI, for a monthly fee, I'd pay it.
afreytes 🇵🇷@a2_4am This makes me sad. Can't even explain how.
nullbuilt@a2_4am Zen is a pretty new, but in a very good state, Firefox fork, born mainly to modernize the UI and add new features. Give it a try! It’s been my daily browser for a while and I’m preeetty happy
@nullbuilt @a2_4am I second this reply.
Zen has been my daily driver for over six months at this point, with Waterfox being the alternative for machines that don't have Zen available.
libresoftwarelover@a2_4am Mozilla has always been the cancer killing FireFox. Even the Debian Project had a big trademark problem with them.
For people looking for alternatives, WaterFox is the most promising one.
Sundew@libresoftwarelover @a2_4am Has WaterFox improved its track record on patching security issues?
Also, do you know of a particular reason to choose WaterFox over LibreWolf, or vice versa?
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