matdevdug

Literally the only thing I want from the internet is some way to put €100 into my browser wallet and when I navigate to a paywall site they can prompt me and say “give us €.50 and we’ll show you the article without ads or a login” and I hit yes and then I read the goddamn article.

I don’t know if this is a W3C thing or a browser thing. I have no idea how to make such a thing happen. But there must be a way to pay people for stuff they put on the internet that doesn’t involve me signing up for 60 different services.

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Show threadAaron11h ago

@matdevdug This concept was added to the Brave browser! (https://brave.com/blog/introducing-brave-payments/)

It uses a cryptocurrency (because moving actual money around for that is astonishingly hard and it's simpler to move the virtual currency instead, then the web sites can convert to real money).

I personally never used Brave but i've always been delighted by the concept and wished this had caught on.

Introducing Brave Payments | Brave

As part of our 0.11.6 release of Brave for desktop today, we are pleased to announce the beta version of Brave Payments, our Bitcoin-based micropayments system that can automatically and privately pay your favorite websites.

Brave
Show threadmatdevdug1h ago
@harpaa01 Huh I’ve never used brave but good on them.
Show threadNik | Klampfradler 🎸🚲11h ago

@matdevdug

The web standard is https://www.w3.org/TR/payment-request/, and the wallet (that will hopefully implement the W3 standard!) is @Taler .

Payment Request API

This specification standardizes an API to allow merchants (i.e. web sites selling physical or digital goods) to utilize one or more payment methods with minimal integration. User agents (e.g., browsers) facilitate the payment flow between merchant and user.

Show threadmatdevdug1h ago

@nik @Taler The problem with this is that you wouldn’t be able to do each one as a separate transaction because of fees. So 2.9% + $.30 would make that impossible. I think you’d end up having to layer in a ledger so that the funds were centralized in the browser and then paid out by Mozilla or Google when a threshold was met.

I love this for solving the problem of checkout though. Maybe I’m misreading how it works.

Show thread🇨🇦 CowMan 🇪🇺 🇺🇦 🇲🇽32m ago

@nik @matdevdug @Taler

Also, older:
https://www.w3.org/ECommerce/?Micropayments/

And broader:
https://www.w3.org/ecosystems/e-commerce/

W3C Micropayments Interest Group

Show threadPettolina11h ago
@matdevdug we and our 953 partners would like your data nonetheless
Show threadblausand 🐟9h ago

flattr did this in a very sexy way, but still people were too lazy to adopt.

Obviously, the "literally one thing you want from the internet" is not the one thing all the others want 🤣

#micropayment

Show threadGabriel N9h ago
@matdevdug it was called XANADU, and it predates the interwebs: maybe in another timeline?
Show threadGabriel N9h ago
@matdevdug https://www.wired.com/1995/06/xanadu/
The Curse of Xanadu

It was the most radical computer dream of the hacker era. Ted Nelson's Xanadu project was supposed to be the universal, democratic hypertext library that would help human life evolve into an entirely new form.

WIRED
Show threadAnton 🇺🇦🇪🇺1h ago
@matdevdug Interledger peeps are working on it: https://interledger.org/web-monetization
Web Monetization

Web Monetization allows websites to automatically and passively receive payments from visitors.

Interledger Foundation