Hello! We are Edinburgh Linux Cafe, joining Mastodon was something we meant to do for a while but never got around to. We are a small but dedicated group helping people to install Linux on their laptops. Our interests are Linux (obviously), repair, reuse, and bicycles. Amazing to see that we have actually been mentioned already (👋 @DoomsdaysCW )!
@edinburghlinuxcafe Hi! I want to install Linux on a Dell laptop. Is that a thing? When is your next event? Cheers!
@pewterbaw @DoomsdaysCW That is indeed definitely a thing, I use a Dell laptop as my main driver. Our next event is on April 25th at the Central Library from 10:30
@edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW do these exist in other cities? I’m based in London, long term #Linux and #FreeBSD user, sounds like something I could help out with.

@mnd999 @DoomsdaysCW There are many Linux Cafes (or similar) in many places. I don't know about London specifically, but I would be very surprised if there isn't. You could try checking https://endof10.org.

EDIT: I am very surprised, it doesn't look like there is. You could always start one? We started off as me saying " You know what we should do? ..." to some friends at a social over drinks. It really is that simple.

@edinburghlinuxcafe @mnd999

London Linux - Meetup
https://www.meetup.com/londonlinux/

Linux User Group (seems to be inactive now):
https://github-pages.ucl.ac.uk/linux/

I'm sure there are more around...

London Linux | Meetup

Everything about LinuxAfter something of a hiatus, since February 2025 are meeting on every fourth Wednesday of the month (except December) at the Hand & Racquet in Wimbledon (25-27 Wimbledon Hill Rd, SW19 7NE). [https://www.greeneking.co.uk/pubs/greater-london/hand-and-racquet](https://www.greeneki

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@DoomsdaysCW @mnd999 I didn't spot the Linux User Group one, but London Linux meetup seems to be more of a social? Though I guess someone who showed up wanting to install Linux would most likely find someone willing to help. And it might be a good recruiting ground to find people willing to start a new group.

@edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW @mnd999

Hello! And welcome 🙂

FYI there is a list/map of Linux User Groups here, not sure how up to date it might be!

https://www.lug.org.uk/

The Silicon Corridor group is alive and well. Monthly meetups in Reading.

https://www.lug.org.uk/lugs/South-East/Berkshire%20and%20Thames%20Valley%20-%20Silicon%20Corridor/

HTH

Welcome to lug.org.uk

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@edinburghlinuxcafe @mnd999

From #RepairCafeInternational

"Want to start a Linux Repair Café? We have developed a starter pack to help you do just that (available in Dutch, English, French, German and Spanish). Existing Repair Cafés in our network can easily download it via their Repair Café account. You can access it by clicking on the ‘Downloads’ button. Let us know when you’re ready to open, so we can add your café to the world map.

"If you do not yet run a Repair Café within our network, you can register and download the starter pack for a Linux Repair Café.

"All Linux Repair Cafés are marked on the Repair Café International world map. This allows anyone interested to see which Repair Café can help them switch to Linux. You can see which Repair Cafés have gone before you by typing ‘linux’ into the search field."

https://www.repaircafe.org/en/more-and-more-linux-repair-cafes-including-france/

#LinuxInstall #SolarPunkSunday #Linux

More and more Linux Repair Cafés, including France! - Repaircafe

Since the Linux Repair Café became available in five languages, the number of Repair Cafés offering Linux installation has grown rapidly. This is also the case in France. Volunteers from two French Repair Cafés share their experiences and offer advice.

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@DoomsdaysCW @edinburghlinuxcafe I actually have a local #repaircafe in Chiswick. Maybe that’s a good place to start.
@DoomsdaysCW @edinburghlinuxcafe I should look into doing this in Dundee/Angus/Tayside
@edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW Linux, repair, reuse, bicycles? Heck yes great combo!
@edinburghlinuxcafe This is really cool, I had no idea you existed! I may be moving to Edinburgh soon - if so I'll definitely make time to come along and help out. How much interest do you get?
@qenya that would be great, having you along! There is a generally a lot of interest, but it does depend on the weather. The last event was on a relatively sunny and warm day.
@edinburghlinuxcafe now i miss Edinburgh even more!!
@edinburghlinuxcafe
Great to hear this is happening!

@edinburghlinuxcafe

Welcome! Great to see you here!

@edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW

Excellent.
Keep up the good work!
I do it in a small way too for family and close friends. Very rewarding to see their amazement as an 'old' machine comes roaring back to very usable life 😊

@edinburghlinuxcafe
Hi, welcome to Mastodon!

You may find it interesting to follow Leah Rowe (if you're not already doing so). @libreleah

Supplies Libreboot (based on Coreboot).
https://libreboot.org/

Libreboot – Free and Open Source BIOS/UEFI boot firmware

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@edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW
Hi. I'm Moss Bliss. I do a weekly news podcast on Linux and open source called Full Circle Weekly News, I'm a frequent co-host on mintCast podcast, I write a monthly article for Full Circle Magazine and am a proofreader for them, and am sort of a part of the Bodhi Linux team. I'm 73 and live in eastern Tennessee. Feel free to follow me at @zaivala

@edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW _Wonderful_ what you say about helping people install Linux on their laptops! Here is something-- after having installed it on two different Asus laptops, one inexpensive Vivobook and one expensive gaming laptop, and one inexpensive HP, as of past 12 months:

The internal Wifi/Bluetooth is unstable in today's newest Debian Linux'es (and on some inexpensive HP Bluetooth doesn't even start). On Asus and some HP it can be repaired: my script
https://yoga6dserver.org/setup_for_install-bt-stability-for-mint.txt

@i_dont_like_ai @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW I've got something very similar happening with my Windows 11 Asus TUF Gaming 15, especially after playing games (thus GPU enabled, more power consumption). I'm not inclined to run scripts from the Internet but reading the script gave me some ideas of what settings to tweak - now to find out how to do so on Windows! :|

@pvanheus @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW Perfect!

I spent like many dozens of hours of research on this before I wrote the final version at Stackexchange here
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/804068/linux-mint-22-3-bluetooth-finds-no-devices-and-is-not-discoverable/804220#804220

..and in the process I realized that despite Microsoft saying they 'love' Linux, it seemed to me to be consistent that Intel, the main source of most Linux-unstable Wifi/Bluetooth cards, consciously avoid presenting the _full_ information that could easily make them work at once at all Linuxes; forcing dongles.

Linux Mint 22.3 Bluetooth finds no devices and is not discoverable

I'm using Linux Mint 22.3 and today when I went into Bluetooth, I suddenly encountered a screen like the one attached. While Bluetooth is on, it doesn't see other devices and isn't seen by other de...

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@i_dont_like_ai @pvanheus @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW

The only time I've needed a dongle for Linux is for a Lenovo thin edge. My kit from PCSpecialist and Novatech works just fine with wifi.

@linuxgnome @pvanheus @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW

Right, glad to hear Linux works.

[Btw: I am just about to update my answer at https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/804068/linux-mint-22-3-bluetooth-finds-no-devices-and-is-not-discoverable/804220#804220 with a comment with a fix for a 2024 Lenovo Wifi that I was sent from @diversetechgeek.bsky.social Anthony Dean and found to work on Mint and other linuxes]

Linux Mint 22.3 Bluetooth finds no devices and is not discoverable

I'm using Linux Mint 22.3 and today when I went into Bluetooth, I suddenly encountered a screen like the one attached. While Bluetooth is on, it doesn't see other devices and isn't seen by other de...

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@linuxgnome @pvanheus @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW

The last lines of this link, according to the mentioned contact, works on Linux Mint, Ubuntu, and Pop!OS for his Thinkpad to cure Wifi, and this is a three-year old solution so it means that this is a gem of a solution to archive for Linux install experts:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=290480

[SOLVED] RTL8852BE firmware keeps crashing / Kernel & Hardware / Arch Linux Forums

@i_dont_like_ai @pvanheus @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW

I have a 14-yr-old laptop from PCSpecialist running Kali and occasionally TAILS from a usb stick - no problem with the wifi. Just for info. No dongle needed for that.

@linuxgnome @pvanheus @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW That's wonderful, and it is a healthy ecological perspective on putting old laptops to new use via Linux; like you, I often find that it works perfectly well.

For all students who are about to buy a new laptop, where is the 'canonical' list that says--do not by that HP but buy such and such Asus instead if you wish to run such and such Linux--but tune it this way? Ubuntu tried to make such a list for a while. Idea: make a Wiki or so for it.

@i_dont_like_ai @linuxgnome @pvanheus @DoomsdaysCW that would be an extremely useful list! Where I think it could get complicated is that some devices work well with some distributions but not others. Think of the device compatibility list of the relatively small list of open source Android ROMs, applied to the much more diverse range of Linux distributions. I don't have the spoons to take on this task, worthwhile though it would definitely be.

@i_dont_like_ai @linuxgnome @pvanheus @DoomsdaysCW Having said that, would be happy to setup a wiki somewhere (codeberg?) if there was enough potential contributors. There are also some existing communities (Rebel Tech Alliance, Tech Reclaimers) who might be interested.

EDIT: the Tech Reclaimers are on the fedi! @TheBulletin and https://video.infiniteloop.tv/c/techreclaimers_channel/videos

techreclaimers_channel

Reclaim your tech with us! You have the right to control your data, devices, and services. We coordinate, develop and foster communities of Reclaimers who want digital independence. Together, let's...

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Oooooh, @edinburghlinuxcafe ! Good to know @TheBulletin is here!
@edinburghlinuxcafe @linuxgnome @pvanheus @DoomsdaysCW @TheBulletin Perfect I have just followed Tech Reclaimers and also written to them; I think such a Wiki about compatibilities between this and that Linux and this and that new and old PC would attract followers if it is clean, have a good name, is not too ambitious technically but simple to grasp, and somebody had a strong moderation hand on it so it isn't filled up with copy-paste stuff. I would gladly be a contributor & add some funds too

@edinburghlinuxcafe @linuxgnome @pvanheus @DoomsdaysCW Yes! But this is exactly what Wiki's have shown themselves good at sometimes, if the moderation and set up is good. The quest is to be so moderate it is accurate:

E.g., somebody could submit:
"I got Linux such-and-such version .. to work with Asus laptop bought in 2026 & this is its type number.. perfectly / or: not perfectly, for Bluettooth was instable and such-and-such fix was required and now it is perfect / or: works with Wifi dongle"

@i_dont_like_ai @DoomsdaysCW that's interesting, have occasionally had issues like this, but usually solved by updating/changing the driver. Though haven't seen many Asus laptops come our way. I've bookmarked the link for future reference, thanks.
@edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW Awesome! Apart from a selection of Acer and Lenovo, there is usually, in my experience, a profusion of Asus and HP laptops in the typical electronics store. Asus and HP internal Wifi cards which in most cases have been produced by Intel, callibrated so that with slight over-use they break down but Windows is programmed to calm them. _Scores_ of people at forums report B/W instabilities. It is I think the main way in which Microsoft keeps Linux down and they do.

@i_dont_like_ai @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW I haven't had the WiFi problems you describe on my HP OMEN 15-ax252nr with an Intel i7-7700HQ (2.80 GHz) CPU and NVIDIA GP107M GeForce GTX 1050i Mobile GPU running the current Linux Mint Debian Edition.

The problem I do have is with that GPU. Once I install the official nVidia DKMS drivers from the regular LMDE repo, the various powerstates become unstable. Hibernate is already weird in Linux compared to Windows. I've had issues with it for as long as I've tried to use it. But with the official nVidia drivers, hibernate, sleep, and shutdown don't work correctly most of the time. The screen shuts off and the fans stop running but the lights stay on, including the keyboard lights. Opening / closing the lid doesn't do anything. I have to hold the power button down and force it to shutdown.

The longer the laptop is on, the more likely this is to happen. It's a pain in the ass. I never had these problems for the five years it ran Windows 10 but it's reliability repeatable in the couple of years it's run Linux: Linux Mint, LMDE, and Bazzite all did it.

@jrdepriest

@edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW

[Btw: Should I delete extra handles when replying to one?]

It is interesting what you say about the GPU stopping to work the longer the laptop is on.

A (vaguely conspiracy-like😅 ) interpretation:

Microsoft has a way of reducing intensities&ensuring that Linux folks don't get to hear about how _essential_ it is to slow the use or tune power management of some chips.

Solution: search for script-adjustments to slowing GPU use or tune powermanag.

@i_dont_like_ai @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW

Incidentally, I plan to try harder for my next laptop to have an AMD GPU. My current Windows 11 laptop (Lenovo Legion Pro 5 16IRX9) and this Linux laptop are the last two I've purchased and nVidia was cheaper because it was on sale. This is what buying "on sale" gets me.

Looking at these to try to fix my Linux laptop:

@jrdepriest @edinburghlinuxcafe @DoomsdaysCW

Keep me updated on how it goes!

Of all laptop brands, I have a penchant for liking Asus though obviously the most cheapest Asus are sponsored to have a little instabilities which requires fixing on Linux. But it appears to me that Asus has a higher love for open source than some others (& unlike HP, even inexpensive Asus has battery charger limiter)

An the more expensive gaming Asus laptops I think have a tendency to work top with Linux