Israeli soldiers torture one-year-old Gaza child to force confessions from his father

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Israeli soldiers torture one-year-old Gaza child to force confessions from his father - Lemmy.World

The morality of torturing children cause they’re not from the chosen people.

This headline is ANTI SEMETIC! Let me FIX it For YOU! “Palestinian Father TORTURES his Child by Not Talking!” NOW it’s NOT Anti Semetic!

-Governments who Wonder why People are Attacking Synagogues!

anyone attacking synagogues is doing so of their own volition and are ACTUALLY motivated by ACTUAL antisemitism. Israel ≠ Jews as a whole
Exactly, there’s a difference between Jews and Israelis. Attacking synagogues is wrong but AIPAC offices, we can have a conversation about those.
Israel and its acolytes “don’t help” by keeping repeating it’s their biblical right. This results in a unilateral meaning and use of the term “anti-Semitism”.
you mean like the arabs saying it’s their holy imperative to wipe the Jews out? is that helping?
Who stated so?

they do.

"The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say: ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’

read a book, it might help you understand

“Who does…?”

“They do…”

There’s always some vague “they”, isn’t there? Yes, it is promotes by some Muslims. It’s not all, or probably even most, and definitely far from it in western nations.

The same way I can say the same about Jews, because the Bible promotes killing in order to take land from people they decide aren’t as deserving, this is bullshit reasoning. You can’t just group all the followers of a religion into one belief. Hell, even the people in the same church, synagogue, mosque, or whatever house will have differences in opinion. Your logic promotes spreading hate targeting the wrong people.

Talk to some people with different opinions sometime. It might help you understand.

the they wasn’t vague, it was contextual, don’t you know how to have a conversation? I never said it was all. if you need specifics, extremist Islamist do. there’s you go, question answered. I didn’t group anyone. I just point out a belief held by many. I also didn’t state any logic, just facts, which you don’t seem to like. btw I’m ex Muslim so I’m well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don’t need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn’t fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it’s a fact.

“all arabs want to kill jews”

You maybe an ex muslims but you still an arab. I hope your family get bombed asshole

My bad, I thought your comment was the one responding to me. Not the one above. Sorry.

the they wasn’t vague… I never said it was all…if you need specifics…

Ok, it wasn’t vague, but you meant all, but you never said it was all, and you can give specifics. Oh, but I should have known the specifics from context, even though you meant Muslims in general, but you also give just some specifics which doesn’t include all of them. Sure, I know how to have a conversation. I also know what you’re doing, which isn’t a conversation. You want to just call other people evil.

btw I’m ex Muslim so I’m well aware of the hatred I was raised in and surrounded by and don’t need you minimising my lived experience just because it doesn’t fit in with your world view. antisemitism is deeply rooted in islam, it’s a fact.

Cool story. I also lived with an atheist former Muslim. It isn’t minimizing your experience to say that your experience has colored your outlook on life. I think religion in general is a tool for forming in-groups and out-groups, and that’s the issue. It isn’t Islam, nor Judaism, nor Christianity, nor any other. They all want to kill anyone else, because they know the truth. Islam isn’t special.

Religion is a tool of the elite to control people. Hate the right thing. It isn’t the religious who are the problem, rather it’s the elites wherever they can grab power. If you know your history, Christians went around murdering everyone in the middle east for a good chunk of time (and we still are), because their Truth is more truthy than Muslim’s Truth, or whatever. Really, it was just a way for the elite to steal land. The Muslim leaders in power do the same thing. They use their religion to tell people to fight for them (yet they never do any of the fighting). The Jews do as well. The Torah, which they all stem from, has several stories promoting “righteous” genocide against other groups, which Israel is using to this day to say that the land belongs to them. You just need a leader in power willing to push those messages.

don’t tell me what I meant please.

also tbh your comment goes all over that place so I’m not sure what the trust of it is? religion is shit and everyone is at fault? yeah I broadly agree

OK, so I’m both supposed to know what you mean without asking, and I’m supposed to not tell you what I’m interpreting it as. Interesting. You get mad when I ask you and you get mad when I say what I got from it. It doesn’t sound at all like you’re trying to be racist without being explicit. Lol.
I know one synagogue that was attacked was very explicitly zionist, promoting the killing of Palestinians. I doubt it’s every one, but you can’t really be that mad when you’re promoting murdering people for people to want to murder you. This isn’t exactly justification, but it is an example of reaping what you sow, which the Torah does warn about.
It’s just splendid that world gets to watch a genocidal colonial settler project akin to what European colonial powers were up to two hundred years ago all because Britain promised land to a group of people one hundred years ago. For an empire that loved beuraucracy how were they such absolute shit at drawing borders? I mean we know they believed in a global race based caste system (they believed white people were born superior) and were antisemitic enough to be excited at the prospect of Jewish people leaving their country but how do you fuck up the world this bad? Major skill issue in my opinion.
there’s a lot wrong with this comment. Israel was created as the league of nations pressured Britain Into creating a home for the Jewish populations displaced after the wars. other counties weren’t happy to take that population and the Jews themselves wanted to return to what they saw as they’re homeland. after WW1 Britain pledged support for their right to a nation and offered to help set that up but it wasn’t until 1947 when the united nations voted for their partition plan that it was decided to decide the land up into separate Arab and Jewish states. the Jews agreed, the arabs didn’t, and when in 1948 Israel declared independence (a joke I know considering their need for American support has never wanted) they and the Arab states were immediately in opposition and have been ever since. blame Britain and white people lol you want but actually they were wonky ever trying to help a people displaced by terrible persecution and who were unwanted by the rest of the world. it seems they still are, so maybe they have a point about that persecution…

Your history isn’t exactly right. While it is the popular reasoning, the plan is older than the war itself, so the logic doesn’t really make sense. It also started before the war ended, so the timing doesn’t line up either. They also started colonizing before the League of Nations decides on that plan, which forced their hand.

It’s all a whole lot murkier, messy, and bad than the version you gave.

the years of these events are historical facts, not sure what debate there is. nothing happens in a vacuum though and one thing leads to another etc. perhaps you’d like to show me sources for how I’m wrong? Jews have been in that area for 5000 years since the Canaanites, is that the colonising you are refering to? as I’m not sure that buzzword applies here

They are historic fact, as in they’re older than what you said. Here’s a Wikipedia page that has more information. Check out “Background”. Notice the date of the letter talking about “the zionist project” is 1902. Even in 1896 he talking about them colonizing Palestine. That’s well before the war. This plan was being set up, and enacted, far before what you said.

Jews have been in that area for 5000 years since the Canaanites

Dude, the people that ended up calling themselves jews and the other people from the region come from the same people. Judaism comes from religions in the area. No one was there before anyone else, because they’re the same people. Canaanites is just a made up term that the jews used to refer to everyone else, so they could tell stories about how they were better, but they’re all literally the same people. Jews didn’t magically appear as a distinct group. Israelites of the time literally are Canaanites.

Anyway, those are not the people moving there. They’re European Jews mostly. Sure, they share some genes with those early people, but far less than the people who literally still lived there. If you want to argue they have some cultural claim somehow, then what they hell do you even measure? They’re all coming from literally the same group of people and the same culture. If your claim is that the term “Jew” is older than the term “Muslim” then I guess you can make that argument, but it’d be a really dumb one.

Muslims are literally from the same group. They follow the same god and have the same holy book (with some new ones). El (hence Elohim, which interestingly is plural) is also the god they both come from, which is where the name Israel comes from, being the land of the people who follow El. They all follow (what was formerly known as) El, although it’s been mixed with other local gods too. Notably neither Jews nor Muslims follow what could be reasonably identified as El, so neither of them have any nominal claim to Israel. Maybe there are still some small local groups who do, in which case Israel, by name, is theirs.

Zionism as settler colonialism - Wikipedia

again, you’re rambling. is your point that everyone is one people? because im not sure anyone would agree with that. how you can claim that two religions whose inceptions are thousands of years apart are the same just because the same god was coopted for the later religions, or ignore the differing cultures etc. but whatever, you do you.

Ah, yes. Giving historical context is rambling.

is your point that everyone is one people?

No? You said Jews have some kind of claim over the land. If they do, the native people have an even stronger one. Everyone isn’t one people. The people in the region are from one group (which we often call the Canaanites), which the Jews of the period are also a part of. None of them have any special claim to the land. Just because someone’s super special book tells them that they are chosen by the super cool guy in the sky doesn’t actually give them any legitimate claim. If you want to discuss it with people who don’t believe in fairy tales, you need something stronger. Since they’re the same group of people they all have equal historic claim.

how you can claim that two religions whose inceptions are thousands of years apart…

OK, you apparently don’t know anything about Islam or Christianity. That’s fine. They aren’t incepted thousands of years apart. They’re the same continuity. The prophets in the Jewish faith are also in the Christian faith, plus some extras. The prophets in the Christian faith are also in the Muslim faith, plus some extras. They’re from the same inception. Jews just don’t believe all the stuff of the other faiths past a certain point.

For example, if you stop following Marvel movies after Iron Man 2 or something, but someone else follows ones that came after, it doesn’t mean their understanding was incepted later. They just kept adding stuff. They’re all Marvel movies. They don’t become not Marvel movies because you stopped watching.

… or ignore the differing cultures…

That’s exactly my point. The Jewish culture has diverged from the one they had when living in that region, as has the people who still live their. How do the Jewish people have a stronger claim despite their culture diverging when they didn’t even live there anymore? If it’s a claim by culture, the people who still live there have a stronger claim.

… but whatever, you do you.

You don’t get to just spread lies and propoganda, then say “whatever” when it’s pointed out you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Try to educate yourself. Maybe you can not make the same mistake again, instead of just saying “whatever” as if you weren’t wrong. Growth is a virtue, not a vice. You need to be able to admit mistake in order to grow.

Blaming Israel’s current shittiness on some lines we drew in the sand 70 odd years ago is a bit weak mate.

We aren’t telling them to torture kids or bomb civilians, they’re doing that all on their own.

To be fair, they were doing it when those lines were drawn (in a different location, because they expanded their territory through war) too. The lines just gave them legitimacy. They started colonizing before the lines were made, and we’re in conflict fighting the locals then. It obviously wasn’t the scale it is today, but the whole project is propagated through conflict.

these monsters worship the devil

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they inserted metal rod through the infant leg:

reddit.com/…/karim_one_of_the_child_victims_of_to…

Quds News Network (@QudsNen)

Recently, Israeli forces subjected a one-year-old child to abuse to pressure his father into giving confessions east of Al-Maghazi refugee camp in central Gaza, according to local and family sources. The child's father, Osama Abu Nassar, suffered psychological trauma after the death of a horse he used for income. While taking his child to buy supplies a few days ago, he was caught in gunfire near his home and forced by soldiers to leave his 18-month-old son on the ground and approach the Israeli checkpoint, where he was stripped of his clothes. According to witnesses, the army then took the child and interrogated the father at the checkpoint. The forces tortured the child in front of his father, including burning with cigarettes on his leg, pricking, and inserting a metal nail into his leg, as confirmed by a medical report. The child, Karim, was released after 10 hours and handed over to his family through the International Red Cross, while the father remains in detention. 📷 Osama Al-Kahlout

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Why did I have to read this

zionists engage in ritual child rape and sacrifice: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lev_Tahor

there was one recently who tried to blow the whistle and was unalived shortly afterward:

www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-856407

www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-718741

cbsnews.com/…/how-jewish-american-pedophiles-hide…

I’m not anti-semitic. This is not about the jewish religon. These specific people in power in the Israel’s government actually practice such satanic evil idology

Lev Tahor - Wikipedia

From your Wikipedia link.

In 2018, Members of Lev Tahor applied for political asylum in Iran, claiming they are a victim of religious persecution—driven by Israel—due to its rejection of Zionism

You use Zionism and Jews as interchangeable and are spreading outright antisemitic blood libels. It’s a shame that mods here allow this kind of conspiracy hatred to be spread freely.

Iran - Wikipedia

Zionists

A fringe cult of a few hundred people.

Please.

And this shit gets upvoted here? This is shameful.

Fuck those holes in BOTH calfs of the baby.

Keep bombing them Iran.

When I think about it, in my country they are welcomed with open arms…
Be guard your back if those arms are open

This is pure evil. The Jewish god is a monster…fortunately he does not exist. Believe what you want, but for me, this is proof that atheism is the correct choice…because this evil is committed in the name of the Jewish god…who is also the Christian and Muslim god…If you’re Muslim, then the Zionists are telling you that your god sanctions this against you - because they knew him first (invented him, actually). If you’re Christian, then the Zionists are telling you that your god wants this, so shut up and let it be…or he won’t send his son back to free you from your Earthly burdens. I believed in god for over 50 years of my life. This sick shit finally proved to me that god is a lie, because if god was real and as loving as I was taught, then he would be livid at these acts. I guess Christians can soothe their conscience with “what you do to the least of these…”

I find that god cannot exist while simultaneously allowing atrocities to be enacted in his name. If you disagree, that’s fine…but for me, even if god once existed…humankind killed him with their ingrained wickedness.

This is also because of the thousands of tribes that were told they were the chosen ones, this is the one that survived until today.
Atheism isn’t ever really someone’s choice. People who are atheist simply replace the “role” that god would have in their life with something else, be it devoutness to science, music, arts, their job, their favorite politician, whatever. Atheism is an absence of a god contruct in the world view of a person. The choice of an atheist is whatever else motivates them in life.

Your claim is incorrect!

God doesn’t fill any “role”, friend. Thousands of years of history around the globe prove that you are fundamentally wrong.

History isn’t proof of any god. Rather, of a human need. Gods were invented all over human history. Some have lots of arms, some are blue.

I like the elephant one, Ganesh.

He comes in a variety of colors. His origin story is he was a perfect baby and dad got jelly so he killed him. Mom was really mad, so dad went and got an elephant head and put it on the dead baby body and that turned into a super elephant-man baby.

Perfectly reasonable.

none of this is done for religous readons. so don’t be retarded

How would you ever know?

All of the religions involved are totally fine with this, they’ve been doing this and much worse for many centuries.

This response is exactly what the fanatics point at when you criticize Israel and they conflate that with antisemitism.
The God of the Bible/Tanakh would be totally fine with this. Hell, for fifty bucks He will let you do all of this AND then marry the kid. Or kill it, whatever really.
Every politician in the west not calling this out is evil and a liar.

They will have to do better than one fake article with an AI generated image.

The image is from an older attack (Oct 2025, after the “ceasefire”) and is likely not AI:

The images of this story are these ones. There was also a video interview of the mother somewhere.

But yes, the article from www.aa.com.tr is shit

'104 dead including 46 kids and they call this ceasefire - only Netanyahu wins'

After more than two weeks of the Gaza ceasefire, occasional flare-ups, another Israel soldier killed, and more than 100 Palestinians dead overnight - almost half of them children - peace deal 'holds'

Daily Mirror

Who are “they”?

Are “they” here with you right now?

“They” is a pronoun, pronouns always refer to the last subject.

In this case, “they” would refer to whomever wrote the article and provided the images

Now you know! …and knowing is half the battle

Damn it… They’re even worse than Hitler’s methods. 

Mengele surgically attached children to each other to recreate “Siamese twins”. He removed the eyes of a twin and implanted them into their sibling. He injected Typhoid bacteria into small children and opened their skulls without anesthesia.

The IOF is a gaggle of genocidal maniacs. They torture, maim and kill. They are not worse than Nazi Germany. Little of what humans have done on this earth is worse than Nazi Germany.

Little of what humans have done on this earth is worse than Nazi Germany.

Maybe you should have a look into the Japanese “operations” in occupied China, then.

Correct, though splitting hairs… Japan and Germany were both part of the axis.

Dude was obsessed with twins.

He also once delivered a baby and lobbed it from the birthing bed into an incinerator, still alive, with the mother in the room.

I mentioned in my comment from the start and before making any edit that this cannot belong to the jewish religon. Same thing happened with ISIS who adopted a false supremacist murderous and evil idology of Islam. They enslaved Yazidi women and slaughtered kids and men whom they viewed as not from the chosen people.
How the fuck was ISIS bad but Zionism is supported by Europe and the US and Western values? ISIS never represented Islam the same way Zionism does not represt Judaism. ISIS mirrors Zionism to the theeth btw. They were colonizing lands that was promised to them by god, slaughtering and raping people for their promised Khalifite who will lead their people to rule the world. They also needed a country for them to escape “the prosecution” they experienced everywhere in the world to practice their religon and exist in peace. Does ISIS have the right to exist??

So lets not pretend these monsters dont exist regardless of what they claim their belief is; We judge them by their actions. The Episten files showed him and Donald Trump impregnating and aborting a mentally disabled kid numerous times. Also showed him mocking a girl who was asking Jesus for help because he absolutely does not believe in any god. Also showed his 1500 galons of acid tank that is connected to the swerage system beneath. There is an ongoing investigation regarding missing bodies in his NM ranch. There is hard undeniable evidence that this monsterous elite Epestien class exist and they do everything above the laws without shred of humanity.

Isn’t there a decent amount of evidence that ISIS is in fact, the IDF. ?

False flag operation.

There is not.

Weird how ISIS only targets other Muslims.

Even though it’s legit against the Muslim religion to kill other Muslims.

Paris and Brussels would like a word.
No, this is the Jewish religion. They believe you do not have a divine soul, you are inherently lesser, you will be a slave to them when their messiah returns, and if you read about any of their heinous beliefs in the Talmud you should be killed. This is the consequence of allowing a religous ethnostate to control the most controversial region of the world.
it is as much jewish as trump is christian

Hey speaking of. Have you ever wonder why he wouldn’t shave his sideburns and slicks them back, or why many staffers came out in 2019 and said he converted to Judaism with his daughter.