nymnympseudonymTrump's Kobayashi Maru
https://piefed.social/c/politicalmemes/p/1906574/trump-s-kobayashi-maru
First_ThunderI mean, there were 2 ships hit with drones… there are reasons for the insurers to be afraid
FiniteBanjoAnd I don’t think those sea mines are American.
Slovene85I don’t think you two are getting the point. It is the way it is because of Trump’s illegal war.
Being invaded by an asshole authoritarian doesn’t really justify attacking literally everyone in reach with arms funneled in from two other asshole authoritarians.
Not that I’m particularly fond of Exxon Mobil, Dubai, or Qatar.
There is no “good side” in this fight.
All of the people Iran has attacked are directly aiding and abetting the criminal Americans.
So when the USA warmongers and preemptively attacks it’s bad
When Iran warmongers and preemptively attacks it’s good
Got it, understood.
I’m not saying it’s good or bad, I’m saying it’s not the escalation you’re claiming it is. Iran is in an existential war against the world’s strongest superpower. It’s allowed to defend itself, and they have deemed that the best way to do that is to disrupt the global economy to the point that the war isn’t worth it. It’s quite an immediately effective strategy, too, and will hasten the end of the war far faster than bombing schools or whatever it is that the US’s strategy is.
Iran is not in any such war against the USA, against Israel maybe though, only the IRGC is at risk of disappearing.
Lies and misinformation. The US killed over a million Iraqi civilians and the country is still less stable than under Saddam Husein. Similar stories for Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. War is always an existential threat. The only reason you think it can be clean and sanitary is because you have been propagandized.
Add in the genocidal tendencies of Israel, and Iran starts looking very much like the good guy in this scenario.
My dude under the sun.
Iraq still exists.
WraithGearWe have cells that triggered are acting on orders of a dead man’s switch, and when you assassinate all possible leaders of a nation you no longer have anyone who can call off the initiated cells, nor speak for the nation to surrender
not just illegal – arguably like every US action since WWII it’s not legally even a war
But the reason it’s as f–ed up as it is is because Trump went in without
- NATO which has things like minesweepers and actual working littoral combat ships
- Getting the needed US aircraft carriers into place before telling Iranians to revolt
- Getting the needed US LCS minesweepers into place (oops they are both under maintenance RN)
- Getting support ahead of time from allies like Europe, Japan, S Korea, GCC states, all of whom could be exerting economic, political, and even military support RN
- Having a fucking plan for how to reopen the Strait which every State Department policywonk and pre-Trump Navy Admiral knew would be Iran’s first move
- Having a fucking plan for shaheds and USV water drones which are now granting Iran naval control and are built decentralized on the cheap in basements, you are not likely to bomb them all
Getting the needed US aircraft carriers into place before telling Iranians to revolt
Didn’t they bring two aircraft carriers into the region like a month before the “preemptive” strike that kicked this off? Also heard rumblings that the US has been moving quite a lot of aircraft into the region since like December
One was already in place. But was supposed to go in for maintenance like a month ago.
The other had to be sent in from IIRC the Pacific, much like the ship full of Marines currently on its way (that should have been in place a month ago if there was any chance they’d be needed…)
NATO which has things like minesweepers and actual working littoral combat ships
NATO wasn’t going to help after he spent the last year threatening Greenland and Canada with invasion.
Getting support ahead of time from allies like Europe
See above.
Having a fucking plan for shaheds
There was no way to stop it. No plan was feasible. He did it anyway.