I mean, there were 2 ships hit with drones… there are reasons for the insurers to be afraid
And I don’t think those sea mines are American.
I don’t think you two are getting the point. It is the way it is because of Trump’s illegal war.

not just illegal – arguably like every US action since WWII it’s not legally even a war

But the reason it’s as f–ed up as it is is because Trump went in without

  • NATO which has things like minesweepers and actual working littoral combat ships
  • Getting the needed US aircraft carriers into place before telling Iranians to revolt
  • Getting the needed US LCS minesweepers into place (oops they are both under maintenance RN)
  • Getting support ahead of time from allies like Europe, Japan, S Korea, GCC states, all of whom could be exerting economic, political, and even military support RN
  • Having a fucking plan for how to reopen the Strait which every State Department policywonk and pre-Trump Navy Admiral knew would be Iran’s first move
  • Having a fucking plan for shaheds and USV water drones which are now granting Iran naval control and are built decentralized on the cheap in basements, you are not likely to bomb them all

Getting the needed US aircraft carriers into place before telling Iranians to revolt

Didn’t they bring two aircraft carriers into the region like a month before the “preemptive” strike that kicked this off? Also heard rumblings that the US has been moving quite a lot of aircraft into the region since like December

One was already in place. But was supposed to go in for maintenance like a month ago.

The other had to be sent in from IIRC the Pacific, much like the ship full of Marines currently on its way (that should have been in place a month ago if there was any chance they’d be needed…)