I mean, there were 2 ships hit with drones… there are reasons for the insurers to be afraid
And I don’t think those sea mines are American.
I don’t think you two are getting the point. It is the way it is because of Trump’s illegal war.

not just illegal – arguably like every US action since WWII it’s not legally even a war

But the reason it’s as f–ed up as it is is because Trump went in without

  • NATO which has things like minesweepers and actual working littoral combat ships
  • Getting the needed US aircraft carriers into place before telling Iranians to revolt
  • Getting the needed US LCS minesweepers into place (oops they are both under maintenance RN)
  • Getting support ahead of time from allies like Europe, Japan, S Korea, GCC states, all of whom could be exerting economic, political, and even military support RN
  • Having a fucking plan for how to reopen the Strait which every State Department policywonk and pre-Trump Navy Admiral knew would be Iran’s first move
  • Having a fucking plan for shaheds and USV water drones which are now granting Iran naval control and are built decentralized on the cheap in basements, you are not likely to bomb them all

NATO which has things like minesweepers and actual working littoral combat ships

NATO wasn’t going to help after he spent the last year threatening Greenland and Canada with invasion.

Getting support ahead of time from allies like Europe

See above.

Having a fucking plan for shaheds

There was no way to stop it. No plan was feasible. He did it anyway.