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RE: https://gruene.social/@jon/116274330298949092

How the HELL can it be the case that in 2026, for a DIRECT #CrossBorderRail connection between two major European cities - Torino 🇮🇹 and Paris 🇫🇷 - it's not possible to work out why the hell there are half the normal number of trains, and on Saturday 6th June seemingly NONE - and this is like 75 days before departure

FFS 😡

Jon Worth 1d ago

When I hear from rail lobbyists that everything with the railways would be fine, if only kerosene for planes were taxed, or buses paid more tolls on motorways, and you have stuff like this and it's obviously total and utter 💩

Railways in so many places in Europe cannot get the basic shit together. Cannot do the simple stuff, like explaining disruptions

#CrossBorderRail

Jon Worth 1d ago

And of course Alberto Mazzola - boss of Brussels based state railways lobby CER - is never going to see this, despite being Italian and theoretically needing to take the Paris-Torino train

Because he will FLY to Italy, rather than taking the train (having been on webinars with him when he was at airports)

#CrossBorderRail

Martin Schröder 🇺🇳1d ago

@jon
Maybe we should force everyone in the commission and the parliament to travel by train and ferry instead of flying for some time?

#CrossBorderRail

fungus (oracle of tree logs)1d ago

@oneiros @jon they are not the one booking the tickets and by their status, have huge privileges (flex business tickets at last minute)
so no it won't help that much

Jon Worth 1d ago

@hypha @oneiros Right.

I did have the wacky idea of organising a “European championship of rail booking” and stream it. To show how stupidly hard some of this is!

Susceptibilité 21h ago

@jon @hypha @oneiros Uh, I'd love to participate! I use cross-europe trains a lot for business trips, so finally all these hours spent booking sensible connections will pay off in the tournament finals

Riku Voipio 1d ago

@jon of course right now busses and airplanes have to pay a lot more fuel than last year. Are the rail companies using the opportunity to grab market share? (Rhetorical question...)

Jon Worth 1d ago

@suihkulokki Ha.

pglux.bsky.social 1d ago

No, they're not. Were they had more willingness, then they would often be unable to do so. Because lacking rolling-stock.

pglux.bsky.social 1d ago

At the very least, TI could ask for diversion via Grenoble, calling at LYS ✈️ @[email protected] @[email protected]

Quixoticgeek 1d ago

@jon oh the reason is simple. Because SNCF.

Bruno Girin 1d ago

@jon Torino or Milano?

Jon Worth 1d ago

@brunogirin Look at a map

1) Anything Milano-Paris goes through Torino Porta Susa
2) Because TGVs serve Milano Garibaldi and Frecciarossa serves Centrale, but both serve Torino Porta Susa, it's easier to search Torino Porta Susa - Paris to check everything that's (not) running

Bruno Girin 1d ago

@jon Ah ok, sorry, I hadn't looked at a map and got confused by some toots saying Torino, others saying Milano. It now makes sense.

Suzanne ‘bionic’ Veerman 1d ago

@jon on the 6th of June Lyon-Perrache is closed for construction. I assume SNCF didn’t bother informing passengers about other services affected by diverted trains.

Jon Worth 1d ago

@smveerman But Freccia from Milano doesn't serve Perrache, only Part Dieu. And even if that's the reason and Part Dieu capacity is limited, why not divert via Bourg en Bresse - Macon instead?

Suzanne ‘bionic’ Veerman 1d ago

@jon is Bourg en Bresse - Macon even open in weekends? It also seems like the high speed line between Lyon and Valence that weekend has limited capacity. It looks like SNCF painted themselves in a corner…

Jon Worth 1d ago

@smveerman It assume it is, because the timings of TGVs on regular weekends Paris - Macon Loché TGV - Chambéry are precisely the same as on weekdays. I think the line is open, just they can't be arsed running any TERs on it on weekends between Macon and Bourg en Bresse.

Henrik Bakken 1d ago

@jon Sounds not entirely unlike my attempt to travel from Rome to Bolzano a Saturday in April (while booking a few months back).

Tickets are now available that day, it turns out, so I imagine the prepared rail works didn't happen.

albertone 1d ago

@jon on the same weekend it seems that there is something wrong between Paris and Saarbrücken.
DB Navigator tells me that "I have to wait until March 30th", while on SNCF connect it simply doesn't exist. I though it was because it's the "Corpus Christi" weekend...