Grant

@haubles @stux

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I’m looking for a little help about dealing with the seemingly mass attack of Russian bots. What's the best way of handling this?

I report this Russian propaganda as 'Something Else' and bookmark a post, so that I can later see if the account is still running, then I block the account. I also leave the checkbox on, for the server itself to receive my report

Many accounts are not suspended

#Mastodon #Fediverse #Spam #Propaganda #ActivityPub #Russia #Putin #Ukraine #EU

Mar 21 at 10:42amWeb
Show threadGrantMar 21

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I’ve found that if I go to the account’s server and look at its boosts/followers/following, I can find many more, quasi-identical accounts. So they boost/follow each other. For example, I’ve seen that the tsst.net server is essentially a russian bot server, with 88 accounts. If you look at the Profiles Directory and browse only that server, you sink into a toxic hole.

Show threadGrantMar 21

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The accounts are mostly identical, with an average of ~4 followers/following. Scroll their feeds and you’ll see middle-east conflict / Ukraine / pro-Russia / anti-EU + some distractions. Often there are quasi-identical posts across multiple accounts.

What should I do here?? Blocking is fine for me.. but it achieves little for the fediverse. The server remains. If the server is totally removed, then they will presumably just make a new one and copy everything across??

Show threadAllanMar 21

@gsymon
There are a very small number of servers that the bots use to spew their content from. So instead of blocking individual accounts you can block the entire server. @iftas maintains a list of such servers, so you can double check against the list first.

https://about.iftas.org/iftas-abandoned-unmanaged-denylist-output/

I noticed that one of the problematic servers, social.tsst.net, was blocked by our server thanks to @stux.

IFTAS Abandoned / Unmanaged Denylist Output

This is the output of the IFTAS Abandoned and Unmanaged Domain List See Shared Vocabulary: Labels for label definitions. Domains listed below may have been defederated due to serious violations of …

IFTAS
Show threadGrantMar 22

@crapaud @iftas @stux

Thanks for the reply Allan.

I’d never heard of IFTAS and it’s great to see that it exists.

I wonder how closely it’s applied across the fedi, e.g. I have reported accounts on ploud.fr which is on that list, but none of them have been ’suspended’. Is there any mechanism for an elevated level of reporting?

I also wonder if blocking a server, may have a negative effect, in that it might just continue enabling these propaganda accounts if others aren't reporting?

Show threadAllanMar 22
@gsymon @iftas @stux
I'm not really qualified to answer but I can give you some thoughts. I'm sure iftas would be pleased if their list would be more widely applied since it's useful against troll bots but ultimately it's just a suggestion. Reporting is the main mechanism for users, but there are 2 lossy levels: our server where the admin may hesitate to drastically defederate/suspend/limit an offending server; and the troll's server, whose admin may be unresponsive/absent/slow.
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Show threadAllanMar 22
@gsymon @iftas @stux
I wouldn't block an entire server until after reporting multiple accounts repeatedly and deciding for myself that it's no longer worth my time and mental health to keep them on my timeline. So yes there's a risk that blocking too soon will leave other users open to trolls' abuse. But rest assured that others are still quietly reporting, that you have done your part, and that there are helpers behind the scenes cleaning up.
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Show threadGrantMar 21

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Last year it was lightning bolts and Telegram … this year it’s getting more subtle. Still crap though.

Oh! By chance, I read this today. What a lovely person the sweet little #psychopath #Putin is:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7vq5g64y98o

#Mastodon #Fediverse #Spam #Propaganda #ActivityPub #Russia #Putin #Ukraine #EU

Russia's school propaganda was highlighted by Oscar-winning film - but does it work?

The messages are clear: the full-scale invasion is a defensive war and patriotism means unquestionable loyalty.

Show threadhannah aubryMar 23
@gsymon @stux Hi, thanks for reaching out about this. Could you email us at [email protected] if you'd like to continue the conversation? That's the best way to get in touch with our moderation team
Show threadGrantMar 25

@haubles @stux

Thank you for the reply Hannah.

I'm really just wanting to know the best way of dealing with this. As the fedi grows, it becomes more attractive to the baddies and ideally, the sooner we react, the better. I shall contact via email.

Show threadstux⚡️Mar 25

@gsymon @haubles The best way is to keep reporting them  

These days there are a LOT indeed and they keep coming it seems

We're trying to hammer them as fast as possible

Show threadGrantMar 25

@stux @haubles

Thanks Stux. I know I chose a great server back in the day. 😊

What should I do when I come across a server like tsst ? Is there a way to forward/report it? It might save a lot of time, if the offending server was blocked at server level... or ... do you already check them out??