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Human Brain EnthusiastThe kids are alright
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Peter Bindels@thomasfuchs eh, so far NaN out of the ads I see are AI generated so ...
khΓ‘nh@dascandy @thomasfuchs Did you vibe code your AI counter?
Stefan Bohacek@thomasfuchs This tracks with some other studies!
https://stefanbohacek.com/blog/on-generative-ai/#consumer-sentiment
Ovidi Nawer@thomasfuchs the near the 30s kids
@Nawer_Rapter young at heart π
Epic Null@thomasfuchs The kids really do make me proud sometimes.
Thommy@thomasfuchs This makes all the sense in the world. Somehow execs know kids use AI a lot, but somehow take that to the opposite of the right conclusion. Something that they know they could have easily made on their phones is thoroughly unimpressive! It's no different from back in the 90s recognizing which clip art collection a component of a logo came from.
Artha π²π³οΈββ§οΈ@thomasjwebb @thomasfuchs They used comic sans! Again!
Nini@thomasfuchs That marketer is not alright though, still fully in the AI pool for other demographics.
Harrison Totty@nini @thomasfuchs This. The real highlight for me was that this person truly cares more about market engagement than the wellbeing of younger generations. Gross.
@HarrisonTotty @thomasfuchs Truly a marketer, apparently their main takeaway was "use less obvious AI" not "don't use AI".
Netraven@thomasfuchs not gen anything but I can confirm that if someone earnestly posts an excruciatingly obvious AI image because they seek engagement, I will warn them otherwise. It hurts, not helps. If you have no way to get an image legitimately, put *NOTHING*, and I might read what you have to say.
edit: No, I have never once been thanked.
Benrob0329@thomasfuchs This feels consistent with my own (also GenZ) experience. AI imagery looks subtly similar to all other AI imagery to me, it "feels off" in many cases. Poorly done slop is even easier to spot, but all slop can generally be sussed out.
Also, "the kids" are now at the age that most people historically started having families :P
We're really the young adults now, which while horrifying, is slightly less horrifying than all the millennials about to have a midlife crisis-
Galbinus Caeli@benrob0329 @thomasfuchs Gen X, almost Baby Boom here. AI slop always looks 'wrong' to me.
MarΓa Arias de Reyna@benrob0329 @thomasfuchs we millenials are so used to crisis that... what's one more crisis?
Steven Sandoval
Artstories@thomasfuchs On the other hand: my 70+-year old aunt was shocked to learn that the cute video she sent me, was Ai slop. She genuinely thought that it was real.
Class Wario@art_histories @thomasfuchs The bar for the world is boomers.
2xfo
Jess Fairbairn@thomasfuchs the "Word 97 Clipart" of the 2020s
Andy Gates@JessFairbairn @thomasfuchs I'm absolutely cherishing the Word clipart "on holiday" sign in a local restaurant.
@JessFairbairn thatβs WordArt slander
Bryan Redeagle 
@thomasfuchs If my Gen Z daughter is any indicator, slightly shitty photos also feel realer. She was hunting down an old digital camera to get a very specific look to her photos when she went out places.
Maypop the Dragon@bryanredeagle @thomasfuchs fuuuuck dude i got a toy camera for $15 and it was sooo cooool but then IT'S GONE. IT'S GONE I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE IT IS!!! :(
MBEverding@thomasfuchs I am borderline Gen z y and I think my Gen z wife is better at spotting AI images and videos, but both she and my Gen alpha kids consume way of the obvious more ai slop like a seductive oister whispering or tung tung tung sahur.
Alison Meeks@thomasfuchs Gen Jones and not only will I ignore but will more often then not block the brand.
Estarriol, Terrorist DragonReal wins with this oldie tooo....
Beau@thomasfuchs my first experience with the ai fake photo vibe was in a carykh video almost 9 years ago, and ive had to look out for it ever since
Teaching convolutional neural networks to give me friends
John Crowden@thomasfuchs Scuse me. I'm 75 and can see a1 imagery a mile off:)
Space Hobo@thomasfuchs Gen Z is in its thirties, now.
@spacehobo sorry the rad kidz are alright
Cregg@spacehobo @thomasfuchs Gen Z is around 1997-2012 so they're not 30 yet, but some are definitely getting close.
ΠΡΠΈΠ³ΠΎΡΠΈΠΉ ΠΠ»ΡΡΠ½ΠΈΠΊΠΎΠ²I'm surprised there are gen Z people who are susceptible to advertising at all.
greenpepper22@grishka @thomasfuchs everyone is susceptible to advertising! Theyβve been working on it for centuries and the human brain hasnβt really changed much in that time
If you think marketing or propaganda canβt work on you, then you are a great target for those things
greenpepper22, it may work on me to an extent, but I'm very defensive about ads. None of my personal devices have any for example. I trust information I get from other people much more that I do that from billboards. If some company spends a lot on ads, I start suspecting that maybe their product isn't very good if they have to spend so much to artificially promote it.
piku 
minor!@thomasfuchs do u have a sauce for the report?
@thomasfuchs i searched and found nothing
Martin π§@mart_e @thomasfuchs oh no the report reference in the reddit post-- the one that apparently says 78% of gen recognizes ai
@piku oh sorry, my bad. I guess itβs an interal thing π€·ββοΈ
Aware-wolf@thomasfuchs
I like that there's a low key implication the problem is GenZ, and not their use of AI and the lack of quality
I like that there's a low key implication the problem is GenZ, and not their use of AI and the lack of quality
Li ~ Crystal System@wifwolf @thomasfuchs 'why doesn't anyone want to buy my thing where i'm not even using a real photo'
Random Damage π»@thomasfuchs I have trouble with 4k TV upconversion, and that seems to be the target feel AI goes for
I'm Gen X, so it's definitely not generational
But I wouldn't claim that it means that I can actually pick out AI images, just that the aesthetic is off-putting regardless of the reason for it
Shadow53@RandomDamage @thomasfuchs I mean, upscaling uses machine learning as well, so I'm pretty sure much of the same technology is involved as with generative ai
@shadow53 @thomasfuchs yeah, but upscaling is less content invasive
It's that overall fake plastic vibe that gets me, and I don't know enough about graphic design to quantify what's wrong
gnaddrig@RandomDamage @shadow53 @thomasfuchs
Same here. And "overall fake plastic vibe" - couldn't have put it better.
Same here. And "overall fake plastic vibe" - couldn't have put it better.
canleaf08β
ε ζΏε€§θε π³οΈβπβ§οΈπͺπΊπ@thomasfuchs Why are we served so much AI crap then? Nobody should want this.
bit101@thomasfuchs I cannot physically read a "summary" that I know has been written by AI. My brain just makes my eyes unfocus. If I'm reading something and realize it's AI, the same thing happens and I can't continue.
C.S.StrowbridgeThere's a movie that came out recently called Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die.
AI takes over the kids and destroys the world. It would have been more realistic if the kids were immune and the adults were the ones suckered by AI.
@thomasfuchs Well, I'm a late Boomer. Been building, programming and using computer since the mid-80s... Been on the Internet since '87, when most people didn't have a clue what it was. I can spot AI in a heartbeat, and I avoid ANYTHING AI. So it's not just Gen Z that can spot and want to avoid AI slop. AI isn't intelligent, is annoying as fuck! Shit makes me want to become a fucking Luddite. When I see a company using it to push bullshit, it automatically me not want to do business with them. It's lazy, usually inaccurate, and is a scourge to cognitive thinking. The backlash is growing and profound to anyone with the slightest intelligence.
So there's that
@[email protected] Fake marketing photos are such a red flag: You can't possibly get the advertised product because it doesn't exit. At best, you get something vaguely similar.
... and besides, if you've gone through the trouble to design and manufacture a thing, taking a few photos should be the easy part. If they aren't even willing to grab a few cell phone photos, what does that say about how many corners that have been cut on the product?
... and besides, if you've gone through the trouble to design and manufacture a thing, taking a few photos should be the easy part. If they aren't even willing to grab a few cell phone photos, what does that say about how many corners that have been cut on the product?
Antiquity/Midnight Spire Games@thomasfuchs No, putting shitty AI slop in their ads is hurting conversion rates.
@thomasfuchs Sorry. I was calling out the headline, which says that the problem isn't AI, it's Gen Z being able to tell that it's AI.
@midnightspire ah! Yeah lol
John LuskYa know... I've been saying something like this for a while. The kids are gonna learn. We won't expect it, and we won't know how, but they'll acquire a natural immunity to the stuff that my generation has totally fallen for.