FirmDistributionGermany has just made the standard Open Document Format (ODF) mandatory
Eager EagleThis is not a recommendation or a preference, it is a mandate,
ODF’s mandate is the document-layer expression of that principle, as you cannot claim digital sovereignty while allowing your documents to be locked in proprietary formats controlled by a single vendor.
incredibly based
RichRARobiBritain is unlikely to take this sensible move because the gullible, naive, stupid, British #ukgovernment have allowed sharp sales from #usa to take over the country.
#NHS sold out
#metOffice sold out
#RAF sold out
#ukgovernment sold out
#starmer lobbying bribes
#lammy lobbying bribes
This is something very important:
Don’t focus on aplications (FOSS or not) but on open data formats and proper import/export mechanisms so you can switch applications easily.
That’s why I use Obsidian! It’s not open source, but all my notes are just… pre-emptively saved as markdown files on disk. If they fuck me over I can just leave and open it in literally any markdown editor 😭
If they used a proprietary format, I probably just wouldn’t have used them in the first place and would have had to use a shittier alternative.
I love obsidian, I wanted to send a donation, but they only sell merch with expensive shipping :<
Sub to their sync service for just one month?
quick_snailWhich markdown format?
GitHub or Stack Exchange or Reddit?
A combination of CommonMark and GitHub Flavored Markdown so it’s compatible with most markdown formatting people are used to. Also supports LaTeX and HTML. (and of course any custom syntax modifications you make with custom CSS or plugins)
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u_tamtamYou could, I don’t know, use an open source note taking app? I mean, it’s not like obsidian has some unique and unmatched capabilities ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Do you have any recommendations?
Since it’s a topic that comes back often on /c/[email protected] I didn’t want to open new floodgates, but I can only warmly recommend triliumnotes.org :-)
What is a plaintext (non-database) md editor that had wikilinks, LaTeX, back links, tags, PDF export, properties and dataviews, and a plugin community? Plus it needs an android app and desktop app that can be synced (even just via syncthing) seamlessly.
I am always open for switching!
The silence is deafening, because there isn’t a FOSS program that comes close to Obsidian’s functionality. This isn’t the first time I’ve seen someone drop the “lul just use FOSS instead” line to garner upvotes, when literally no FOSS alternative exists.
Lemmy has an obsession with FOSS (for good reason) but that means many users basically try to act like FOSS vegans. They’d use six different (and largely incompatible) FOSS programs just to scratch the surface of what a closed-source program can do. And their hackles start to raise if you ever point out that there aren’t FOSS alternatives for everything.
The silence of two hours ago lol
Chill brother. Like i get it, and FOSS advocates should lead with meaningful alternitives first imho, but there definitly seems to be some joplinapp.org
I personally prefer vscodium and nvim myself for notes but that isnt a one for one comparison to obsidian (in either direction) imho
ok, but there’s not much substance to your comment besides unsubstantiated “zealotry” towards obsidian and some general hot takes against lemmy and the FOSS community through which it emerged.
Maybe you could start listing out a few aspects and features of obsidian that you deem so important and unique, and I’m sure that you may discover a few very compelling alternatives.
As far as I’m concerned, I’m all set with triliumnotes.org . It’s not just a more versatile and capable note taking app, it’s also one that I can deploy simultaneously “local first” and “as a web service”, so my notes are reachable everywhere (even where I’m not allowed to install the heavy client).
Vscodium for notes, interesting.
I looked into joplin before obsidian actually, but it is much more of a standard note taker, not good for zettelkasten sort of notes (link and tag focused)
Im.very into “AsCode” and pretty comfortable with vi bindings. So the two extremes where i document (random notes with no structure needed and formally verified documentation ) it works for me.
I can preview the markdown, use vale rules to enforce style and vocab, do mermaid.js diagrams, link my UML to stuff, etc.
Then check into git to do version control or just to save it off local.
Joplin is reasonably good as long as you don’t use so much metadata to keep things organised. It’s also pretty rigid, and hence limiting. If you want something with the superficial simplicity of joplin, but that would scale up to your needs, I recommend giving triliumnotes.org a good look.
If you drop the plaintext requirement (which IMO is anachronistic, if not for the necessity to fend against a potentially turning hostile developer in a close-source set-up), you may find triliumnotes.org liberating.
If you must stick to the “notes as plain text files” paradigm, siyuan is better than obsidian in about every aspect, and logseq in other, more niche ones. Trilium is better than them all (IMHO), being the only one that does “note as data” correctly and efficiently (you don’t have the same data model divide like seen in notion between notes and databases).
Obsidian is pretty good. I currently use Logseq, which has a slightly different model that clicked a bit better for me. As a bonus, it’s open-source.
Real. Given common data formats and import/export mechanisms, it should be possible to use any application for the same ends.
I think this is not (entirely) true. Or at least I have some questions:
- Is this an enacted law that I missed? Because it looks like it is a work in progress.
- “All levels of government” Really? We have federalism. I am not sure, if that can be mandated by the governments.
I have searched a bit further: For federal and state governments, ODF is binding through IT Planning Council resolutions and federal guidelines, but there is no formal law yet mandating its use. Also, this is not binding for local authorities, but virtual it is.
Meanwhile OnlyOffice is saving to Macroslop format by default: https://piefed.social/c/libreoffice/p/1803568/libreoffice-blasts-fake-open-source-onlyoffice-for-working-with-microsoft-to-lock-users
LibreOffice blasts 'fake open source' OnlyOffice for working with Microsoft to lock users in
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Neat!