relsqui3d ago
Show threadLuci Bitchface Angerfoot

See normally when an algorithm requires The Entire Global Supply Of Ram, a software engineer would consider that not a good algorithm, and would try and make a better one instead of optimising the entire planet for paperclip manufacturing.

Unfortunately we accidentally gave a bad software engineer too much money

Mar 18 at 10:55pmWeb
Show threadLuci Bitchface Angerfoot4d ago
i feel like we’re in the midst of a super villain plot and we only have a limited amount of time to disrupt the ram supply before it feeds a machine that… well let’s be honest; the scary Artificial Intelligence at work here is not going to be in the data centres. It’s the global economy and supply chains.
Show threadLuci Bitchface Angerfoot4d ago
i mean, maybe my relative kindness towards AI tech is just my bias towards finding value in garbage in general.
Show threadCharles ☭  is a Green4d ago

@bri7

Vaprwave, noise, post digital, machine learning

Show threadLuci Bitchface Angerfoot4d ago
@celesteh i’ve felt for a while that once the hype dies down, and the counter reactions have gone, and the bubble has truly popped, in about 10 years people will start imitating the quirks of AI painstakingly by hand out of affectionate nostalgia, the way they do with VHS and CRTs now
Show threadLuci Bitchface Angerfoot4d ago
@celesteh analog horror will make way for Diffusion Horror
Show threadRavindra Kanodia3d ago
@bri7 @celesteh in 20 years, new indie game devs will be posting like "how do I get that thing from the 2020's where the character's head moves and it kinda takes a second for the background to fill in behind them"
Show threadbjb  2d ago

@bri7 @celesteh

I dunno, I don't think I'm going to like obsequious ass-kissers any more in the future than I do now.

Sorry, I meant incorrect, inefficient obsequious ass-kissers.

Show threadsabik4d ago
@bri7
looks like the millenarian sect in the white house that needs a war in the middle east to precipitate the biblical apocalypse is disrupting the plans of the millenarian sect in the white house that needs data centres to precipitate the agi apocalypse 😬
Show threaddrawnto 🟨⬜🟪⬛4d ago

@bri7 I think the problem might be worse:

We work in a system where people which are impressed by an algorithm eating all available resources are in charge of the money is spent.

Show threadTzimisce Flesh3d ago
@drawnto @bri7 We work in a system where an algorithm eating all resources is in charge.
Show threaddoboprobodyne3d ago

@flesh @drawnto @bri7
May I be forgiven for quoting C. S. Lewis' summary of human history here?

"That is the key to history. Terrific energy is expended - civilizations are built up - excellent institutions devised; but each time something goes wrong. Some fatal flaw always brings the selfish and cruel people to the top, and then it all slides back into misery and ruin. In fact, the machine conks. It seems to start up all right and runs a few yards, and then it breaks down."

https://www.azquotes.com/quote/899377

#CSLewis #quotes #anthropology #systems #macroEconomics #books

C. S. Lewis Quote

That is the key to history. Terrific energy is expended - civilizations are built up - excellent institutions devised; but each time something goes wrong. Some fatal flaw always brings the selfish and cruel people to the top, and then it all slides back into misery and ruin. In fact, the machine conks. It seems to start up all right and runs a few yards, and then it breaks down.

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Show threadTzimisce Flesh3d ago
@doboprobodyne @drawnto @bri7 I see where he's coming from, but I think the statement lacks some analysis.
Show threaddoboprobodyne3d ago
@flesh @drawnto @bri7
True; possibly the curse of publishing an isolated quote without the three book series from which it arises ;)
Show threadTeemu Kalvas3d ago
@doboprobodyne @flesh @drawnto @bri7 I'm not sure if it is good political analysis even in context, but then it didn't try to be. I mean, it's popularization of protestant theology.
Show threadaburka 🫣4d ago
@bri7 turns out we all gave the wrong answer to "how do you sort an array that doesn't fit in memory" at our technical interviews
Show threadBeldarak4d ago
@bri7 100% agree, but to nitpick: we did not gave them money, they stole it from us
Show threadTyrone Slothrop4d ago
@bri7 This is an excellent thread. Thank you!
Show threadHoldMyType4d ago
@bri7 @jasongorman idk what algorithms is the code for a bootable image of Linux is based on , but we boot it on 2/3 partitions of whole disk and full ram
Idk even non devs experiences system ve been hanging and breaking even for non coder Linux enthusiasts since way before ai
Ask physics undergrads :D
let me qualify my point with an example #qemu
QEMU uses various algorithms for different functionalities, including dynamic binary translation for emulating processors, and specific algorithms for block devices, disk images, and cryptographic operations. Additionally, it employs the Tiny Code Generator (TCG) for just-in-time compilation and optimization of code execution.
d you order them from best to worst ?
Show threadEndlessMason4d ago

@bri7
"The napkin math says infinite ram"

Infinity Memory? Is that in our monthly spend?

"Guess we can deploy v1 with a memory limit and see how it goes?"

Show thread64kb3d ago
@bri7 weird to watch years of people not caring about optimisation come to this, it should have been inevitable I guess.
Show threadFeloniousPunk3d ago
@bri7 @msbellows See, this is what I’ve been thinking too. If AI is amazing, then have it optimize its own design.
Show threaddasgrueneblatt3d ago
@bri7 yes
Show threadKrzysztof Sakrejda3d ago
@bri7 there appear to be a lot of bad software engineers
Show threadestelle3d ago
@bri7 after learning even the basics of why neural nets produce surprisingly good results with limited resources, it makes no sense to bother scaling them, which led me to developing a theory that eating the resources and fishing for subsidies was the actual design goal of the architecture,
Show threadestelle3d ago
@bri7 (i have another theory that explains the seemingly braindead design choice, and that one relies on purposeful monopoly and internalized exceptionalism based on racism, and the basis of that idea is already debunking itself in real-time)
Show threadIsocat3d ago

@bri7 The signs have been growing increasingly obvious:

• 'Engineers' without the reflex, present in most real ones, to look at something and go, "That's not cost-effective!".

• People acting as though 'compute' is a noun

• The list goes on

Show threadAvi Rappoport (avirr)3d ago
@bri7 I think VC and management are most to blame. Sometimes they used to be software engineers, but the temptations were too much for them
Show threadTim3d ago
@bri7 the algorithm is big 🌎 of 1
Show threadCraig Duncan1d ago

@bri7

For the BigTech Oligarchy, McLuhan's Medium is the Message has become the Medium is the Profit, and the Medium is Electricity Obfuscated as Data.