A true anarchist is not a knee-jerk reactionary against social convention for it's own sake. Not the one who screams 'no rules!', while trying to make everyone else follow theirs.

An anarchist has a code, a set of rules they hold themselves to, not anyone else. An anarchist is one who asks; 'who made this rule, and what purpose does it serve?' before deciding whether or not to follow it.

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An anarchist does not drive on the opposite side of the road just because what side to drive on has a rule. But they might treat a red light as a stop sign when there's little or no traffic.

Like models, rules are never universally right, but some are useful. Good rules are guidelines, that help keep us safe. Not policies to be policed, regardless of the likely outcome.

Following rules because they're rules is recorded in history as "just following orders". We know where that leads.

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A couple of days ago I posted about what being an anarchist means to me. Obviously given the way I defined it, I can't determine what it means for anyone else. A contradiction, yes. But one that holds space for flexible ways of understanding that can better respond to our constantly shifting situations.

One thing my freedoms-based definition didn't address though, was how I apply it to political economy. For example, do I believe that all legitimate anarchist politics is anticapitalist?

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So one thing I want to clarify is that although I see "anarcho-capitalism" as just fascism with better branding (Peter Thiel being an archetypal example of where it leads), I do accept that a person can be right-leaning economically, and still be an anarchist.

But there are limits, beyond which this becomes a contradiction in ways that are universalizing, and inflexible (again think of the neoreactionaries defending the freedom to deny others freedom).

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When people claim that property is an inalienable right - like freedoms of expression or association are - then "property is theft", as Proudhon famously put it. But as long as they accept that property is a social agreement, subject to negotiation and consensus, then "property is freedom" (a lesser known quote from Proudhon).

Having said that, being open to the idea of a place for markets in a free society does *not* make an anarchist right-leaning. It just makes them not a Stalinist.

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The reason I'm opposed to markets is I just can't figure out any way that 1) markets would not necessarily lead to authoritarian rule and 2) authoritarian rule would not necessarily be required for markets. So markets both cannot exist in a free society and a free society cannot persist with any sort of market in place. If you could manage it that markets didn't reward bullies and cheats and increase inequality until we're some warlord's bitch, I suppose it'd be fine. But how is that possible?

The best I heard we've managed is different tribes meeting for negotiation and trade. And some mediation strategies to try to handle grievances. But once everyone has to all agree (or be made to agree) on the value of a common currency, it's a downward spiral from there to slavery.

@cy
> So markets both cannot exist in a free society and a free society cannot persist with any sort of market in place

David Graeber covered this in Debt, better than I possibly could. If you haven't read that, I recommend you do. If you have, maybe time for a refresh?

But one argument against what you say here is that it's ahistorical. In his book Life Inc. Douglas Rushkoff pointed out that the importation of the tradition of the bazaar into Europe had a profoundly liberating effect.

Oh, you mean a "free" society. My bad.
@cy
What is the purpose of this snark? How does it help the conversation?
@strypey
Is there ever a purpose to snark? No reason to converse @[email protected] made it clear what they mean.
@cy @strypey What did they mean?
The freedom to do business without government interference.

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@cy
I have a hunch that that's not the main freedom that @strypey was aiming for, but more like the means by which we get the more valuable freedoms.
It's regrettable that freedom is a complex subject. One freedom can prevent other freedoms, and you have to decide which one you're going to go with. And that's why I don't have much to say about this.