I understand not being an absolutist against all things AI. It's wrong, but I understand. What I don't understand is people who think that those of us avoiding shit with AI or created by AI are irrational or some other offensive term. I don't see how it's different than avoiding code written by a literal honey badger. Neither the honey badger nor the AI know how to code and having them do so shows a lack of fucks given for the quality of the output. That's ( part of ) why we avoid it.

RE: https://infosec.exchange/@cR0w/116244751172093572

I'm so sorry in advance for this long post, but this has been on my mind lately and I want others' thoughts on it.

I think I agree with the person I'm quoting, but I can't be sure because despite using it, I'm starting to hate "AI" as a term. It's not their fault that the definition has been mutilated, but I have to wonder if they're against AI in theory or in it's current form.

My stance is against any sort of "AI" that steals the work of others and either claims it as original, or uses it to modify someone's otherwise untainted creation. I assume that's what they're referring to, in which case I 100% agree.

That said, I'm unaware of any issues with machine learning itself when ethical and, of course, not based around widespread theft. So, OP, what do you think about using such programs to automate painfully tedious tasks? This wouldn't steal from others or remove any creativity from a work, only use a algorithm to, for instance, display rough subtitles as a placeholder for, or in absence of, proper ones. It could also be used as a starting point for a person to later refine. This kind of thing has been around for years, in the same way text-to-speech voices have helped the vision impaired and even ADHDers like myself (I have trouble reading long-ass academic essays).

Previous examples of this tech haven't caused harm, so if a system for generating subtitles is FLOSS and improves with usage (I think that's what machine learning means?), then it's a good thing, right? How do I distinguish between such software and the dystopian slop machines we're all rallying against?

#ai #GenerativeAI #AISlop #FuckAI #NoAI #LLM #LLMs

@cloudskater We are in the 4th wave of AI, and it started with its first wave in the 60's, while the 70's was the second, and 80's were the third. There was an AI winter for 20 years starting in 2000 or so until it came up again.

Probably the biggest issue is that what we're rallying against is weaponized AI, as it's nothing more than a neutral, big flip-off program that's coded, and usually, it's trained in such a way that it doesn't do exactly what you want it to do.