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davetortoiseCaffeine is lowkey the most normalised and profitable drug addiction in the world, and it doesnât really even do anything. The whole âgiving you energyâ thing is a myth, all it does it make you tired without it. Thatâs why caffeine legally has to be listed as a âflavouringâ on the packaging, despite nobody on earth having a clue what itâs supposed to taste like
all it does it make you tired without it.
Maybe if youâre already taking it regularly this is true, but we know that it blocks some adenosine receptors, preventing the buildup of adenosine, which is one component in making us feel sleepy.
Yes it makes you feel less sleepy/tired but it doesnât âgive you energyâ - just tricks the body into thinking itâs less tired than it actually is
Thatâs not true. It sounds like youâre confusing nicotine with caffeine. Nicotine is often credited with âtaking the edge offâ when in reality, that âedgeâ is a result of nicotine withdrawal.
Caffeine blocks the receptors that react to a chemical the body releases when itâs tired. Youâre right that it doesnât give you more energy, but it does stop you from feeling by tired.
Out of all the common legal drugs (nicotine, alcohol, THC) caffeine actually provides some of the best benefits with least intrusive drawbacks.
Making you not sleep isnât really the same as giving you energy, and since most people take it in the morning anyway it doesnât really matter
I know you said âgives you energyâ originally, but is that how most people think of coffee? I tend to think of it as âWhen I drink this Iâll be less tired.â
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ď¸Iâll be that guy: SUGAR. Just try cutting it out of your life and tell me weâre not all hopeless fiends.
If you cut out sugar completely, your brain/central nervous system/red blood cells would break down.
We definitely consume too much sugar, but caffeine is not needed for anything.
I think they mean the bullshit that is in everything and causing major issues, high fructose corn syrup. Everything in moderation, but easier said than done sometimes with addictive substances.
ValmondFalse. The liver can synthesise over 100 grams of glycose per day, enough for the brain and the rest.
Itâs hard and crashy to withdraw from sugars, and itâs hard because itâs in all processed food and wherever they can stick it, but you can absolutely do it.
But if you pull through youâll feel way better because the body upregulates the fat to atp cycle instead of using sugar, so instead of getting hungry all the time when the body needs energy (and you are supposed to eat a donut) it just uses fat from our fat cells.
And if you eat a lot of sugar, as sugar is toxic to the body, itâs used up ASAP and triggers insulin spikes etc. not exactly good for you in the long run.
Now, I guess you should try to figure out a good diet around all this of course, but sugar is just a toxic drug.
DämnyzThe sugar reserves in your liver are like a last resort of your body when it canât burn any carbohydrates in the cells. As a type 1 diabetic I can tell you that you shouldnât fuck with that at all. Messing up your hormones (like insulin) is a really bad idea. Apart from that we obviously consume too much sugar. When your liver dumps all the sugar it saved up it also dumps a heap of the shit it is supposed to filter out. When you get hypoglycemic and your liver takes over, you gonna have a really bad time. When your body burns fat it produces Ketone, which is similar to acetone (or nail polish). In small concentration thatâs not a concern, but in higher concentration, like when you donât consume any carbohydrates, it fucks you up big time. Ketone is the reason why diabetics get blind, lose their legs and develop nerve damage.
Sugar is only toxic when you get it from refined sources. When you consume whole, intact foods, in a balanced diet, sugar is totally fine and literally our primary fuel source. Our metabolic system prefers sugar as fuel so greatly that it 1) will use it over fat if available, and 2) will break down proteins in the body to get more glucose if deprived of it.
Howâs that acetone breath by the way?
Acetone breath? Nice argumentation.
Youâre just repeating what I said in another way:
yes, it will use it over fat, because itâs bad for us, so smartly weâll use it up ASAP.
yes, other things (fat) will be used if you do not eat sugar.
Sugar is sugar, your idea about ânaturalâ has no foothold in science, itâs the glycemic index you want.
Also, if your diet is your primary âfuel sourceâ I wouldnât like to be your arteries.
Would you care to try again and make sense this time?
gandalf_der_12tei think they mean sugar intake, not sugar metabolism
UnderpantsWeevilSUGAR. Just try cutting it out of your life
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See what I mean!?
The whole âgiving you energyâ thing is a myth, all it does it make you tired without it.
Absolute nonsense. I donât drink coffee or tea, and if I drink a couple cups of coffee I end up with a hundred more tabs in the browser, two programming projects started and abandoned, a hundred notes tagged and reorganized, and a bunch of unnecessary and vaguely mean comments on Reddit and Lemmy. Possibly also a sore leg or shoulder from impromptu exercise.
You need to take control of your caffeine addiction.
Placebo effect entirely
Nope. I can instantly tell when the wife has a Celsius or other âenergyâ drink because she doesnât normally. Iâll full on addicted and it sucks trying to get off it, massive headaches, loss of focus. When sheâs on it, kitchens get destroyed and other random things when she goes on a âcleaning spreeâ.
Oh really? And are the whooshing of blood in my ears and the cranked-up muscle tone also from the placebo effect? And the fact that the shoulder muscles are jacked up for several days afterwards, pulling my neck forward while the back muscles pull it back?
Sounds like quite a serious reaction. Have you seen a doctor about it?
Have you tried quitting your coffee addiction?
I donât drink coffee. Why are you angry?
Do you also not drink tea and fizzy drinks?
Not really
Thatâs not serious. Abstain from all of those for a month or two, then down two or three cups of coffee and get back to me. Even better if you keep doing alcohol during that, which is famously a depressant of aforementioned nervous system.
I just thought the stuff about muscle contractions in your shoulders/neck sounded concerning and unusual. Iâve never heard anyone mention something like that before.
That stems from my sedentary life mode. But that doesnât mean that caffeine doesnât stimulate skeletal muscle, particularly considering that Iâm in the perfect position to judge that.
RamenJunkiePersonally, I just want to take a nap after drinking coffee.
Check yourself for ADHD.
One of symptoms is that supposed stimulants have calming effect
Absolute nonsense
No, science. (first result) mindbodygreen.com/âŚ/does-caffeine-actually-give-uâŚ
The other one, sounds like caffeine effect on ADHD.
Thanks for your speculation as to what it might be, but I donât need it. Unless you totally abstain from coffee, tea and fizzy drinks, you have no idea what caffeine is like after not consuming it.
Especially, seeing as another guy here speculates that taking a nap after drinking coffee is a caffeine effect on ADHD, perhaps you two might want to speculate against each other whose speculation is more correct, speculatively speaking.
rom worsening their symptoms over having no effect at all to making them sleepy.
Thanks for admitting that your guesswork doesnât amount to jackshit since it contradicts itself.
With the info, that a âSyndromâ means a range of causes, displaying similiar effects you can roughly group together.
Now calm down.
Well then thank you for pulling the word âsyndromeâ out of nowhere, since it figured nowhere in this conversation before. But you also say it means âdisplaying similiar effectsâ, so you mean that âworsening their symptoms over having no effect at all to making them sleepyâ and âgetting a lot of ADHD antsy, jitteryâ are âsimilar effectsâ?
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Like i said, first result. You find 10 better after 10 seconds googling.
Why not just ask Gemini directly?
Letâs also consult Wikipedia:
Stimulants (also known as central nervous system stimulants, or psychostimulants, or colloquially as uppers) are a class of psychoactive drugs that increase alertness. They are used for various purposes, such as enhancing attention, motivation, cognition, mood, and physical performance. Some stimulants occur naturally, while others are exclusively synthetic. Common stimulants include caffeine, nicotine, cocaine (including crack cocaine), amphetamine/methamphetamine, methylphenidate, and modafinil. Most stimulants are highly addictive and damage health when addicted.
The primary effect of caffeine is to block adenosine from getting to the adenosine receptors, and that hormone is generally associated with sleepiness. So itâs kind of like caffeine creates an illusion that removes our awareness of sleepiness.
However this also has a cascade of secondary effects on the central nervous system that leead to things like blood pressure changes, improved lung function, increased cortisol and adrenaline levels, etc. Taken together, these things quite objectively generally result in greater feelings of alertness and energy. And anxiety.
As others have noted one case where it can have more of a calming effect is in people with adhd. It should also be noted that overconsumption of caffeine combined with other poor lifestyle choices quickly leads to chronic fatigue system, at which point no amount of additional caffeine is going to continue being helpful and it just becomes a slog of continuing to take it for no other reason than relief from withdrawal symptoms.
One dose a day is all that should be necessary - ideally taken as early as possible. It should also be noted that for most people in industrialized countries, coffee or tea might be their most significant and pretty much only reliable source of polyphenols.
And lastly donât forget the most important reason for drinking caffeinated beverages: the pooping!
^that.
âŚAlso worth pointing out: caffeine gets added to a lot of analgesic meds. So itâs very possible to have a background caffeine load and not even realize it, whether thatâs from taking a couple of caffeine-containing painkillers or eating dark chocolate.
well caffeine mostly makes me pee. itâs a diuretic which means it makes you pee. thatâs the thing itâs most effective for for me. other side effects include having an easier time shitting because it increases bowel movements. apart from that it is a mild stimulant that maybe makes me a bit more creative. iâve observed it a couple of times but itâs inconsistent.
most normalised and profitable drug addiction
Found the Mormon.
Caffeine is not addictive in the technical sense.