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Steve SmithSo I recently discovered that a shitpost I made about job titles on the company network is now evidence in a court case. This may be my finest hour.
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Deborah Pickett@tarkasteve This makes you a P6, I think.
Vee 🐊Do you know what the court case is/ is about??
You've hit a life goal I never knew I wanted to hit until today, congrats!
@VeeTheGator US NLRB wrongful dismissal case against Atlassian (not by me). I'd link to a news article but all the ones I can find are by papers on my shitlist.
Ian@tarkasteve Before I noticed the "en_AU", the "legend" names and lots of names ending in "ie" I was speculating that you were Australian.
I can’t believe its not @twcau@tarkasteve That is gold.
D Ingram@tarkasteve Having worked for a US multinational I so feel this. The additional idiocy was that we weren't allowed to state job grades because that was 'sensitive PII', but Aus people stuck with Grad, Eng, Snr Eng, Prn Eng, and a rare handful of Snr Prn Eng. Funny how that mapped P1 to P5. Apparently there was a P6 grade but nobody in Australia had it.
So strange now in $currentJob to have job grade listed in the staff directory.
Tubemeister@ingram @tarkasteve I’ll bet that’s not meant to be “Senior Porn Engineer”, but I can’t figure out what it should be.
Play Ball and Fight Fascists@Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve
At my company, it's Principal.
Will@Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve "Principal". Other completely meaningless terms I've seen sprinkled into job titles like unbelievably pretentious confetti are "staff" and "distinguished".
Personally, if anyone foolishly gives me authority over job titles, I'm making "extremely senior engineer"s.
Alex Celeste, Princess Consort of Burnout@Tubemeister i have an unreadable paygrade code but my customer-facing title has been "Elder Witch" for a few years now 😁
Noratrieb@whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram @tarkasteve Senior Engineer, Senior Senior engineer, Senior Senior Senior Engineer
@noratrieb @whbboyd @Tubemeister @tarkasteve Chief Engineers are like that. Is it the Project Chief, the Program Chief, the Division Chief or the Company Chief? I started calling the company chief the "chief chief chief" and it started to stick, to his disgust.
@whbboyd @Tubemeister @tarkasteve The title inflation got to the point there are now Distinguished Senior Technical Fellows. Because having an office and carpark* as a Senior Tech Fellow wasn't enough.
US only. No carparks or offices for Australia
@whbboyd @Tubemeister @ingram there were a lot of title changes, but it was changing "principle" to "staff" that was the most egregious, as "staff engineer" just sounds like "general shit-kicker" in Australian. Hence the localisation joke.
@tarkasteve @Tubemeister @ingram "Staff" is by far the funniest to me, because "staff engineer" is… uh, pretty poorly-defined, actually (I've never worked a place with "staff" in the standard engineer title hierarchy, but it typically slots in either in place of or above "principal" in the "extremely senior engineer" range), but always a prestigious title, while the term "staff" in *every* other context is dismissive. Your staff is, like, your janitors.
(To be clear, in case it's not, I think this attitude falls somewhere between "ill-advised" and "psychopathic". Your office will stop functioning just as quickly with no janitors as with no white-collar denizens.)
@whbboyd @tarkasteve @Tubemeister Where I am now "staff" means the doers and not the decision makers (Board, EGMs etc).
I've found US folk get very particular about titles and hierarchy. Their tech gods (Senior Tech Fellows) are not used to being called out by pleb engineers either, which makes it a bit of a sport here. Being competent in more than one area confusing many US eng too.
@ingram @whbboyd @tarkasteve I’m not even entirely sure what my official title is. Probably something boring like “unix engineer”. Place is too small and flat charted to go full on “special senior fluffer to the fellow” or whatever, and I like it that way.
@ingram @whbboyd @Tubemeister Which brings us to the 'en_US' part of the joke; there's a certain type of org where everyone thinks they're "Senior VP of Development" or whatever. Movie studios are famous for it.
@ingram @whbboyd @Tubemeister "Tyrone: Being #3 in Al-queda is like being a "creative vice president" at a Hollywood studio. There are dozens of them ... and they are expendable."
http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html
@whbboyd @tarkasteve @ingram “staff” is the cleaners indeed where I’m at.
And as a rule of thumb they’re pretty similar to us lot what keeps the servers running in that we’re invisible unless we fuck up or otherwise don’t do our job.
Primo@tarkasteve I'm very confused without context o.O
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Tom Forsyth@3janeTA @Primo @tarkasteve
Warnie is Shane Warne
Boonie is David Boon
They were excellent Australian cricketers.
You'll never guess who Don Bradman was...
Warnie is Shane Warne
Boonie is David Boon
They were excellent Australian cricketers.
You'll never guess who Don Bradman was...
Marius Kießling@tarkasteve live every day with the goal of having your Microsoft Teams messages read out loud in a deposition
Ryan Finnie@tarkasteve I once wrote an internal message about a company we were involved in a lawsuit with. (The company I worked for was a multi-billion-dollar entertainment company so they were pretty much always involved in at least one lawsuit.) The message wasn't false or even particularly controversial, but wasn't flattering.
An exec PMed me and said "is that something you would like to see in a court filing?", to which my reply was "in my defense, that would be awesome" before relenting and removing the post.
GandhiTheDerg@tarkasteve When your joke is so good even the Judge wants to see it /jk
Chris@tarkasteve evidence of what, lol
Darwin WoodkaI got fired from a company once and a few months later got a call for my deposition in the shareholder's lawsuit against the company for their assholery. It was great.
Purple Skies@tarkasteve gold.
the date of the post and your name and the coincidence of the more well known steve smith also being lets say deactivated during that period just adds a nice bit of spice too.
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@tarkasteve @davidgerard Boonie!
Renalia - #1 pizza downloader@tarkasteve i am desperate to know more lmao this is awesome
I AM BANKSY ☕ / 🗑🔥@tarkasteve I'm going to talk with my director about adopting P6 as my title.
Kat S@tarkasteve Now waiting for your "but I digress..." classic to be quoted in Parliament.
ComputerNut43@tarkasteve I’m so proud!
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