Eduardo França
Willow (she/her)Mastodon, you are a influence...
Since I joined I have ditched most subscription stuff like Spotify, Amazon and Netflix.
Made the swap to Linux.
Started painting.
Now I am considering whether or not I could be a Person Who Bikes Places.
The responses to this have really shown me that the Bike People that I don't follow are actually very similar to the Linux ppl I don't follow and are part of why I avoided it for so long.
kimu@MsHearthWitch totally with you on not enjoying high temperatures. My least fave weather to bike in.
Richard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP 🇨🇦🌹🚴♂️📷 🗺️As a Canuck when folks mentioned weather I immediately thought cold where you can add layers. Heat is a completely different matter.
@the5thColumnist @kimu Yeah cold and rain I can easily deal with. I grew up in Northern BC, "The cold doesn't bother me anyways..."
But the heat is an active danger for me (I get actual heat stroke with all the fun side effects just from doing too much inside). So all the "just dress for the weather!" folks in my mentions can get bent lmao
There is only so far you can go in undressing for the weather.
eyajpng@MsHearthWitch oh no this checks out
@jepyang Yeaaaaah. There are some ppl who are extremely religious zealots about stuff in a blinding way that is sooooo offputting.
Lyn@MsHearthWitch I have a fancy bike that life gets in the way of but one day it'll get used.
And I completely get what you're saying re certain cyclists. It's a definite barrier to entry.
And I completely get what you're saying re certain cyclists. It's a definite barrier to entry.
Rasmus Lindegaard@MsHearthWitch i am a person who bikes to work (ebike) and i love it, but, i do live in a country where there are good bike lanes in most places.
And i dont bike when there's layers of ice and snow everywhere (though you can get spiked wheels for it) or when there's like, a storm. (Rain etc doesn't bother me)
Would recommend. I wish more people would try it for a month and see if it doesn't take.
(And no, my workplace isn't just down the road. I go 26.5 km each way)
@MsHearthWitch also, i might add: we have a locker room at the office so i can shower before work starts
Brodeuse LucileDT@MsHearthWitch read a bit of the thread and... They are hopeless
@luciledt yeah...
Chris 🏳️🌈🧵🧝🏼@MsHearthWitch Wow. I had no idea that this was such a hot button topic, and yet… I’ll bet your mute list just grew by leaps and bounds.
@elfkin a few new additions, aye. The "there's no bad weather just bad clothes" contingent makes me want to hurl them into the sea.
@MsHearthWitch As someone who literally rides hundreds of miles a year on his bike, I assure you that there is very much weather that is just too awful to bother or bear.
Also, I can relate on the heat stroke-ish front. I have the same issues but find that my tolerance for heat is much higher on a bike because the breeze of riding really cools you down more than you’d expect.
ts 🚇@MsHearthWitch oh man, I'm so sorry to hear this :(
Most places in the U.S. fail to realize the importance of biking as transportation - even for those who never ride.
I hope you're still interested.
CHOCCY MALK™ 
@MsHearthWitch I find the internet to be ever full of people with fairly middling takes which they believe apply to literally everyone. This is, of course, not true.
@choccymalk It's the forever present idea that a complete stranger knows more and is better informed about good options than the person experiencing it.
And I do get the value in crowd sourcing solutions for problems. But it's just so infantalizing the way people (primarily white dudes) approach other folks online.
Woozle Hypertwin@MsHearthWitch Fediverse: gateway drug to Avid Cyclism, which is a gateway drug to toxic masculinity and spandex addiction.
Parents, remember to talk to your kids about Mastodon. If you don't, who will? 🚴♂️ 🚔
Branwen74@MsHearthWitch Seems mentioning biking is attracting even more reply's than mentioning Linux. 😮
@Branwen74 haha for sure. And I do welcome advice generally, people who presume they've a more intelligent grasp of my situation and capacity than I do are really fucking annoying!
brennen> Now I am considering whether or not I could be a Person Who Bikes Places.
!
it's quite a bit of fun, really
@brennen It looks like it. The problem is I do not like The Weather.
Sandor Spruit 🇪🇺🇳🇱🇺🇦🇨🇦@MsHearthWitch @brennen There’s plenty of waterproof rain gear to resolve that issue
@sandorspruit @brennen Rain is not my primary issue.
@MsHearthWitch @brennen Oops. Must be my Dutch perspective on things, as cycling is almost a religion over here 🙄
Regendans@sandorspruit @MsHearthWitch @brennen 😄 Biking is so common in the Netherlands, I cannot imagine life without them. And come to think of it. Very young children learn to bike on tricycles, bikes with some extra wheels when learning to bike. Then the rest of us would bike on bicycles. And then some elderly people again get a tricycle when they want to bike but need more wheels support.
Gabriel Pettier@regendans @sandorspruit @MsHearthWitch @brennen the rain can be a bit of a bother, but the real enemy is the wind. 😆
Bee O'Problem 
@MsHearthWitch @sandorspruit @brennen I've heard fat bikes can be good in snow. A mountain bike works okay for me on ice and hard packed snow but requires care to avoid slipping. Deep soft snow is nigh impossible though
I find the most annoying part of biking in the cold is that it's really hard to judge how to dress. Getting overheated when it's -10C out sucks hard.
Edit: nvm I read further and see you have the opposite issue.
Hermannus Stegeman@MsHearthWitch @brennen there no such thing as bad weather. Only bad clothing 😇🤗😘
@hermannus 42C and higher and a medical condition that responds poorly to heat would disagree.
Antifamiek@MsHearthWitch @hermannus 42
Is really much, but the joy od cycling is that you create your own wind. And do the same things you do when walking: eg. time of day, bring water, stay in the shade, don’t exaggerate… it extends your reach compared to walking. Compared to a car, well… No AC, no comfy chair and smaller reach. But way cheaper and no need for the gym!
Is really much, but the joy od cycling is that you create your own wind. And do the same things you do when walking: eg. time of day, bring water, stay in the shade, don’t exaggerate… it extends your reach compared to walking. Compared to a car, well… No AC, no comfy chair and smaller reach. But way cheaper and no need for the gym!
@Amiek @MsHearthWitch @hermannus
I can attest to the make your own wind to cool you in the heat. The proof of that is having to stop moiving at a stop light for two minutes.
Eggs now in different baskets.@Amiek @MsHearthWitch @hermannus Sometimes you do. But not always.
One hot summers day in Norway many years ago on the way up over the Vikafjellet pass towards Vik on a fully laden touring bike my speed was about five kilometres per hour.
The wind was also moving in the same direction as I was at a speed of five kilometres per hour.
You don't even need a medical condition to feel uncomfortably warm in such situations.
Everyone has different limits and abilities and preferences.
JF 
Oh dear.
I tried one time to cycle by 40C ish (in London, UK). This was a short trip (6km) to the office (where the aircon was waiting).
That was not nice.
I don't know how different it is in other places with different humidity index but I guess not good either
@MsHearthWitch that IS hot, true.
Aaron In Minnesota@MsHearthWitch @hermannus e-bike is nice for both heat and cold fwiw.
Heat feels more obvious, maybe, just don't need to work so hard, so tend to sweat less, but still get the benefit of the breeze.
For cold, not having to think about what happens if you bundle up too much but then have to work hard and get sweaty is nice actually. Just dress warm is far simpler than having to have warm but breathable, or sheddable layers or whatever.
cuan_knaggs@MsHearthWitch @hermannus i grew up around those temps and walking is much more manageable than cycling
sia@MsHearthWitch @hermannus i don't relish biking in 38c weather, and hotter is worse, but during the nicer parts of the year I prefer cycling to driving, just always bring water and snacks
@Siobibblecoms @MsHearthWitch @hermannus I had a collegue in the Netherlands who cycled to work in the winter and drove to work the rest of the year.
Their logic was impeccable. The time it took for them to warm up and defrost their car on a cold winter morning was longer than the time it took for them to cycle to work.
In spring, summer and autumn they could just get in their car and drive to work without any fuss.
@the_wub @MsHearthWitch @hermannus i dont have cold problems here, its currently 32 c in march, and it barely freezes at night in the winter
@Siobibblecoms @MsHearthWitch @hermannus Coldest winter temperature here in the last ten years was -34'c. -20'c is more common in winter
+30'c is a hot summers day.
I tried winter cycling at -20'c a couple of times in the past. Wind chill is a significant problem at such temperature. It showed me that my rain jacket (worn as a wind breaker) breathed quite well by revealing to me which parts of my upper body were most exposed to my self-generated airflow.
Raptor 
@hermannus @MsHearthWitch @brennen In 45C weather the only clothing that would make biking not feel awful would get you very quickly arrested.
@MsHearthWitch yeah, heard. biking is a good way to have The Weather as an adversary, which... well, let's say it varies in its desirability.
(our current Weather is 90mph gusts of wind. i biked in something like this once with it as a tailwind and it sure was an experience. i've never passed so many cars so effectively in my life.)
dingodog@MsHearthWitch @brennen you can be a Person Who Bikes Places without being a Person Who Always and Only Bikes Places!
Biking when it works for you is fun and good!
@dingodog19 @brennen Yeah, this is something I've always understood as a general concept but have been solidifying more recently.
There was a few posts going around that were like "Oh, you would be vegan but you love eggs? Be vegan+eggs" "Oh you would love to cycle everywhere but it's not convenient for work? So drive to work and cycle on the weekends"
And it's SO important to banish perfection from our practices.
@dingodog19 @MsHearthWitch @brennen And safe. I used to cycle in the UK when I was a student.
I picked up cycling about ten years later after moving to the Netherlands as it was easier and safer to navigate round town on a bike than a car.
If I could no longer live where I living now then I would prefer to return to the Netherlands rather than the UK.
Primarily because of the freedom, and health benefits the network of dedicated cycle infrastructure in the Netherlands brings to life.
Darth Osler@MsHearthWitch @brennen the sky is blue, usually 🤷♂️
Tina@MsHearthWitch
Then do what I do. Only cycle if the weather is to your liking. I don't mind a bit(!) of rain but if it's too much the bike stays home. Cold is not a real problem, biking warms you up. Snow and ice are no go for me. Heat depends a lot on humidity. It's not all or nothing.
And I don't own any special cycling gear, I hate the look of "outdoor clothing" and refuse to be seen in anything neon.
Sini Tuulia@spinni81 @MsHearthWitch This! I love to bike but I only do it if it won't deeply annoy me. My only allowance for biking clothes are a couple of pairs of trousers. I wish I had one of those tricycle bikes so I could wear long skirts and wouldn't have to worry about snow or ice? Or stopping in lights if my balance is wobbly or knees are angry that day. 😄 But being able to bike anywhere should I so choose? Wonderful and normal
@sinituulia I don't have balance problems (yet, my mom has them and I suppose at some point I will get there as well) but I do wear (long) skirts and dresses on my very normal bike. I don't even have a skirt guard on my bike, so far I haven't missed it.
@spinni81 My skirts and petticoats tend to be very very full (this one only has some 4-5 metres of hem at instep length, but the petticoat has 16 metres of hem ruffle) so even if they're not getting tangled into the bike gears or wheel, I need to gather them up in one hand when mounting or dismounting, so my actual legs don't get tangled in them when I do. 😄 This is fine, but not fun to do in stressful situations like when the light suddenly changes! If I was sitting on the three wheels, it would be much more pleasant probably.
My fairly ancient regular old bike looks much the same as that, except dinkier! There are skirt nets available for bikes but I never ever remember to get around to it, and it doesn't quite solve the dismount issue
@sinituulia Ok, I didn't picture a petticoat with that much ruffle. :D That's a challenge with any bike. I mean, when the safety bike became popular women started to wear trousers to ride them. So, you are in good company.
@spinni81 I've made a couple slightly less ruffly ones, but most of the ones I own are of the less practical for biking variety. 😆 I do have trousers, but I prefer skirts!
Did you see the recent J. Draper video about early bikes and feminism? With the penny farthing?
@sinituulia No,I haven't. I will check it out. Thanks.
@spinni81 You'll probably be able to find it without issue, but it's this one!
@sinituulia I found it on Nebula 😁
@spinni81 Even better!
Franchesca@sinituulia @spinni81 I have one of those Edwardian trouser skirts that was originally designed for ladies to bike (the buttons down the middle open to make it fully trousers). No petticoats with this one I’m afraid, bloomers only. 😅