Tonanio 🇪🇺 🇵🇹 🇺🇦 🇵🇱Mar 8
Electronic Frontier Foundation
EFF is appalled by how quickly and uncritically internet restrictions are being adopted around the world, David Greene told CNET. "Even if they are under 18, or under 16, children have the right to access information, to speak and to associate.” https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/indonesia-social-media-ban-under-16/
Indonesia to Ban YouTube, TikTok, Other Social Media Apps for Children Under 16

Indonesia is the latest country to block social media, saying the apps pose "increasingly real threats" to young people.

CNET
Mar 7 at 6:59pmTypefully
Show threadKevin Karhan Mar 7

@eff then I expect you to not just speak up but actuvely subvert any #AgeVerification and "#KYC" bullshit - globally!

Show threadKrutonium://Mar 7
@kkarhan @eff @torproject (KYC?)
Show threadKevin Karhan Mar 7

@krutonium @eff @torproject "Know Your Customer" aka. mandating people to self-d0x to use a service!

  • It spread well beyond the [admittedly false!] pretense of "combatting #MoneyLaundering and Terrorism Financing"…
Know your customer - Wikipedia

Show threadjafraMar 7

@krutonium @kkarhan @eff @torproject

KYC = Know Your Customer
Quasi eine Klarnamenpflicht. Dies kann kaum datenschutzkonform realisiert werden.

Show threadjafraMar 7
@kkarhan @eff @torproject
Die EFF gibt sich afaik größte Mühe, eben das zu tun.
Show threadKrutonium://Mar 7
@eff Trust me, you're not alone EFF.
Show threadRay McCarthyMar 7

@eff
It's an attack on the privacy of all adults.

It's really about universal surveillance, not about protecting children.

Show threadxs4me2Mar 7

@eff

Because it fits in some stately actors agenda’s…

Show threadJohan SköldMar 7
@eff my nephew in the small teens has literally been using YouTube to learn programming. While a lot of content on YouTube is of questionable quality, this would actually hinder his ability to learn a useful skill were it to happen in his country.
Show threadAmmarSpacesMar 7

@eff Sad that most Indonesian people supported this regulation...

While there are some critiqued about the concern of privacy (but this is so minor).

Basically, most Indonesian literacy on privacy are so shallow even though they are screaming if there is a huge data breach.

I hope better things happen.

Show threaddemi7en 🎗🇪🇺Mar 7

@eff Having spent time in multiple "unfriendly" locations I appreciate privacy/anonymity *more* than the next guy, but we can't allow our kids or ourselves to be subjected to the type of industrial level manipulation now going on.

Likewise we shouldn't allow those industrialized manipulators to exist on the platforms we inhabit in the first place

If that wasn't enough, many/most platforms are owned, run and manipulated by nefarious/greedy owners sycophantic to a hostile non-democracy (you know which ones).

There is a technical fix, but one with a caveat (i.e. 'becoming of age' may reveal the fact).

Every citizen in a democracy could be issued with an anonymous digital token (multiple; one spun off the original for each use/platform/purpose so they can't be cross-referenced) that simply verifies this person qualifies to participate on, um, participating platform.

Maybe I'm a little naive and willing to trust my own government — left, right or centre — unlike the majority of humanity these days, but this current uncontrolled lab rat experiment is harming all of us and destroying discourse between verifiable human beings.

(I know some under-18s are way more mature than many nominal adults will ever be, but a year or few of additional mental peace has never harmed anyone like exposure to the industrialized manipulation would.)

Show threadJoep Bos-CoenraadMar 7
@demi7en the open source Yivi application can provide such functionality.
Show threadSassinake!Mar 7

@eff

a new generation of hackers are about to be launched.

Show threadTaran RampersadMar 7

@eff the responsibility needs to shift back to platform owners.

If you are profiting and can't keep a PG/R...

Oh now, there's an idea...

Show threadLuna chanMar 7
@eff They want what happened in Nepal to happen there.
Show threadCats Who Code (cursed)Mar 7
@eff looks like more people need to know about Tor 
Show threadKierkethumbs up convincinglyMar 7
@eff serfs should be quiet and work