Lucie / minute
i really would like proper screensavers back. we can see in certain edge cases that burn-in is still a problem with TFTs (and i guess OLEDs), it's just not widely known anymore
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Show thread✧✦Catherine✦✧Mar 7
@mntmn still salty about kde removing them
Show threaddiffie :3 (bindiff)Mar 7

@whitequark @mntmn I didn't use KDE with kwin_wayland, so XScreenSaver was still an option.

Now, without KDE, I'm using XScreenSaver.

Show threadWolf480plMar 7
@mntmn do screensavers have an advantage over dpms off, other than looking absolutely stunning?
Show threadLucie / minuteMar 7
@wolf480pl i'm wondering, but not 100% sure.
Show threaddiffie :3 (bindiff)Mar 7
@wolf480pl @mntmn I keep all outputs always on, because it also disables audio on my HDMI monitor.
Show threaddiffie :3 (bindiff)Mar 7
@wolf480pl @mntmn And another monitor needs ~20 minutes to reach full backlight brightness, so I don't want to turn it off when I'm expecting I'll need it soon.
Show threadstdevelMar 7
@mntmn Als would love to see them again :D
Show threadosmodiaMar 7
@stdevel @mntmn Johnny Castaway!!
Show threadstdevelMar 7
@osmodia @mntmn Oh wow, that’s a nice blast from the past
Show threaddiffie :3 (bindiff)Mar 7
@mntmn TFT LCD “burn in” is reversible, AFAIK. My phone does that frequently and it can be fixed by letting the screen/device to cool down.
Show threadLucie / minuteMar 7
@jwo cool down literally, as in low temperature?
Show threaddiffie :3 (bindiff)Mar 7
@mntmn Yep. This screen doesn't like heat (mostly from the smartphone electronics) and shows really ugly persistence when I have a non-moving image (UI etc.) on it, especially when it's hot.
Show threadGourdMar 7

@mntmn one of the few things I will miss once my desktop is off Xorg in a Debian release or so is XScreensaver.

look, I don't even think it has the most practical use for me on my display, I just think it's neat

Also have absolutely had a non-OLED LED monitor burn in.

Show threadVoidZeroOne   Mar 7

@mntmn they are coming back https://www.jwz.org/blog/2025/07/xscreensaver-6-12/

but screen blank helps with the burn in problem already a good bit and some OLEDs seem to come with a screenblank feature in firmware it seems

XScreenSaver 6.12

XScreenSaver 6.12 is out now. This is another Unix-only release. DPMS works on Wayland, using either "wlr-output-power-management-unstable-v1" or "kde-dpms". Fading should perform much better on both Wayland and X11. GNOME continues to be unsupported. Oh dear. How sad. Nevermind. Still no locking. What I would like to know: Do you have a non-GNOME Wayland system on which either idle detection

Show threadLucie / minuteMar 7
@TheOneDoc oh wow i totally missed that jwz gave wayland another chance?!
Show threadVoidZeroOne   Mar 7

@mntmn I missed it as well and, of all people a @BrodieOnLinux video clued me in on that.
Ever since I watched @till on Tech over Tea youtube insists on recommending Brodies videos and sometimes even I can't resist the drama click bait.

Edit: it's only fair to link to the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6qMTnHQ9ow

Screensavers Are Coming To Wayland

YouTube
Show threadTill KamppeterMar 7

@TheOneDoc @mntmn @BrodieOnLinux

Sorry for making you getting spammed by YouTube. I hope you enjoyed at least the Tech over Tea ep. #299 with me about OpenPrinting ...

Brodie, by the way, great thumbnail image. Reminds me to my Windows 95 PC (ugly!!) times in the early 90s ... The Flying Toasters screen saver!

To protect the particle accelerators (CRT monitors) everybody had on their desks ...

And now they come back for OLED monitors?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8NoAXgGIP8

#OpenPrinting

#299 The Man Making Printers Work On Linux | Till Kamppeter

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Show threadVoidZeroOne   Mar 7
@till @mntmn @BrodieOnLinux it's only spam if it's utterly useless so no worries.
Show threadTill KamppeterMar 7

@TheOneDoc @mntmn @BrodieOnLinux

And in no way I want to say that Brodie's videos are useless (sorry, Brodie, if some of the comments here made that impression).

Many subject matters are important to be made aware of. And in case that one of the videos you did not like so much, in the end you always learn how to free up some storage space ...

Show threadChristine Lemmer-WebberMar 7

@mntmn Yes! And also, I'd argue there's a cultural reason.

When I first started using a libre desktop, xscreensaver's customizability, while seemingly unimportant, really helped me *feel* a sense of being able to be part of my computer. I'd argue this feeling and experience and sense of whimsy is actually really important for fostering a drive of curiosity. Screensavers, especially those with lots of little fiddly knobs, are a great low-entry way of getting people to experience that.

Show threadP CorralMar 7

@cwebber @mntmn

Enjoying x screensaver on my phone today!

Was delighted to have it back in my life after reading the compelled and hilarious privacy policy: https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/google.html
Sad to learn today that this was removed from the playstore. #enshitification

XScreenSaver: Google Store Privacy Policy

XScreenSaver is a collection of free screen savers for X11, Linux, macOS, iOS and Android.

Show threadJeffMar 7
@plasmacorral @cwebber @mntmn jwz crowdsourced that privacy policy on fedi. That thread was hilarious.
Show threadSprocket The ClownMar 7
@cwebber @mntmn Need I say more?
Show threadFiXatoMar 8
@SprocketClown I wasted so much time watching Johnny Castaway 😂
@cwebber @mntmn
Show threadRichard W. Woodley ELBOWS UP 🇨🇦🌹🚴‍♂️📷 🗺️Mar 7

@cwebber @mntmn

I customize my PC by changing my desktop image to a different photo of mine weekly and I leave the Desktop bare, launching programs from the Start Menu.

Show threadDave bauerMar 7
@cwebber @mntmn Absolutely whimsy and curiosity are the secrets to everything worth doing in my experience.
Show threadHaelwenn /элвэн/ Mar 7
@mntmn IPS also seems to get a bit of burn-in but at least it seems to clear up fast enough to not be too much of a problem.

Plus I think it's a slightly different kind than CRT burn-in?