RE: https://mastodon.social/@JulianOliver/116184681305474579

Take this into account into your risk analysis, people. If you're an activist or journalist investigating the power that be you have a different risk profile.

@BjornW oh my. I was just moving over stuff to Proton. Not a journalist. But. What’s a good alternative these days?

@Mdubbelm I don't have a clear answer. It depends on your risk profile. Who might be interested in your (communication) data?

If your reasons for choosing Proton are to protect yourself from morally impaired cyber criminals, Proton might still be a good solution. If you want to protect yourself from a state-like entity you have a problem & need more help than Proton with it's generic services probably can offer. Now this does not mean that one should continue to use Gmail either....

@BjornW @Mdubbelm
It's not Proton's fault, it's the law. All other providers would've done the same.
If you want to be anonymous, you have to pay wirh cash.
@src_esther
Correct, but there are different jurisdictions around the world. Some could act as a buffer against certain adversaries.
@Mdubbelm
@BjornW @src_esther I think if @Mdubbelm wants a reputable non-bigtech solution, Proton is a good choice if, as normal folks, you do not really have state actors in your threat model. The case Bjorn refers to is remarkable enough to be news and that fact pretty much says everything about the level of protection Proton really offers. So, as a normal user, I would not fret too much over it.

@BjornW good point. We must be careful, however, to prevent FUD in these matters (not saying you do, btw! ;-)): what was passed was _payment_ data, not 'e-mails' of I understood correctly.

Moving to a different provider would not have prevented this unless it does not comply with law or payments were cash (which Proton allows also)?

@davidhund you are correct, the details matter. That's why I said in my 'advice' @Mdubbelm that I don't have a clear answer as well. It depends on many things if this is a problem for your situation or not.